Shoe shopping - is Forged worth it?

[24CTDH]

Yea; I can feel the diff. Every time my old tired *** has to lift one of 'em up onto the spindle!

I just looked my wheels (SVE R355s) up. They're both listed as being just under 24 lbs/ea. The OEM 20 x 9s were a hair over 38 lbs/ea (I had them weighed at the local UPS store for a potential sale + shipping costs)..................so it was approx a 14lb weight saving per corner. Pretty decent for the money (2024 Labor Day sale).

My GT is a cruiser/DD/GG so I don't have any lap times or ETs to show a performance increase. In any case the wheels were a wheel and tire package (Nitto triple 5s [285F and 305R]).
Much larger contact patch with much sticker rubber. My GT is absolutely planted better in corners (country roads) during vigorous street driving, and it hooks and goes much better under hard acceleration.

Oh yea...................with the 5 spoke design; I can't believe how much easier it is to access my calipers for cleaning than with the 20 spoke OEMs.

https://lmr.com/item/WTK-355912GBA/sve-mustang-r355-wheel-nitto-tire-kit-19x10-11-black-2024

that seems like an incredible deal for wheels tires mounted and balanced. Gez. maybe i should just look for something like that all packaged up. that situation is a grand less than just apexes wheels alone lol

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[Junkyard Dog]

that seems like an incredible deal for wheels tires mounted and balanced. Gez. maybe i should just look for something like that all packaged up. that situation is a grand less than just apexes wheels alone lol

Well, the price reflects what you are getting.

If you want a forged wheel and a quality tire, then even from the same company (SVE), the package will be significantly more expensive.

Take a lookout the forged Dark Horse look alike and Michelin Pilot Sport 4S:
https://lmr.com/item/WTK-444912FJ/sve-mustang-dhp1-forged-wheel-michelin-kit-2024-dark-horse

(these are black because for some reason they make the graphite in only 10 and 11, not 10.5 . . . just like Apex seems not to make the dull bronze wheels in the 19 inch best sizes, either . . . )

 

[Junkyard Dog]

UPDATE:

Sorry, I was not searching for it properly or something.

SVE does make the 10.5 forged wheel in Graphite, and they sell it in a package with the Michelins.

https://lmr.com/item/WTK-444913DLFJ/sve-mustang-dhp1-forged-wheel-michelin-kit-graphite-2024

 

[Junkyard Dog]

 

[Junkyard Dog]

21 pounds for the 10", and 23 pounds for the 10.5" but only 22 pounds for the 11" wheel, according to the video.

 

[Junkyard Dog]

SVE does not have the reputation that a company like Apex does for road racing. I cannot comment on the actual usefulness of SVE v. Apex. I just do not know. I think Apex has a very good reputation. SVE has historically been a cast wheel company. Then they got into flow formed. Now they are making fully forged wheels. I do not know how long they have been at it or whether anybody has been stressing them doing hard laps with sticky tires.

Maybe somebody else knows, or you could ask over at https://trackmustangsonline.com/

I know we have at least one forum member with a Dark Horse running the DHP wheel from SVE on his Dark Horse, but I do not know if he tracks it. He was very happy with the wheel and tire package he purchased, though.

 

[robvas]

"SVE" is just rebranded Chinese stuff

everything from wheels to suspension components

I'd guess there are only a handful of companies that make wheels out there. Especially flow formed ones. And I'd also bet most of the non-name-brand wheels all come from the same 1-2 places. I know that's how it was for SN95 and Fox wheels.

Just look at how many of the aftermarket wheels out there look 90% the same.

 

[robvas]

A flow formed wheel (or spun forged or whatever the buzzword marketing is using now) is so much cheaper you can generally buy a whole set for what a single forged wheel would cost

and it's not like you're going to break a flow formed wheel on the track. Unless you hit something at 100mph (which would damage a forged wheel too...)

 

[Junkyard Dog]

"SVE" is just rebranded Chinese stuff

I had no idea.

Sorry I mentioned it, now.

and it's not like you're going to break a flow formed wheel on the track. Unless you hit something at 100mph (which would damage a forged wheel too...)

I just saw a picture of a chunk of the cast center of a flow formed wheel flying of on the track, lol, but it could have been one in a million, who knows?

 

[robvas]

Some good wheel chat in the first post

https://www.vorshlag.com/forums/for...ang-s197-and-s550-wheels-why-big-tires-matter

 

[Junkyard Dog]

Oops

 

[Junkyard Dog]

Some good wheel chat in the first post

https://www.vorshlag.com/forums/for...ang-s197-and-s550-wheels-why-big-tires-matter

Great article, but, um, I am not going to take a Sawzall to the front fenders of my beautiful Blue Ember Metallic Dark Horse to fit 12" wheels up front . . .

Wow, they got some excellent results, though, I and I liked the look of the S197 with the fenders flared after they were painted.

For those who might want to take a look, later they buy an S550 and start experimenting with square 11" set ups and 305 tires (and a 315 Hoosier). "We actually had a short period where we ran the 315/30/19 on a 19x11" wheel set, too. The move to Hoosiers was worth 1-2 seconds per lap over the RE-71R - which we tested extensively, back to back, on many race weekends."

@krisk runs an 11" square set up on his S650 but warns that the camber set up for track might not be the same as a street camber set up.

 

[Junkyard Dog]

We tried to fit an 18x12" wheel on the front or back of this S550 chassis, but came up short. Not possible without massive tire poke, cutting, or flares... 11" is the maximum and the 315mm Hoosier is pushing the limits of what "fits" - as you can see above..


End of Quote - and they had some tire rubbing on the inside - click on robvas's link to take a look.

 

[Junkyard Dog]

Hoosier makes its R7 in a 295/30 size that has an 11" tread width and probably does not rub like that.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire... (Mount DOT inside)&partnum=93ZR9R7&tab=Sizes

 

[Junkyard Dog]

Some good wheel chat in the first post

https://www.vorshlag.com/forums/for...ang-s197-and-s550-wheels-why-big-tires-matter

Thank you for sharing that. Read every word and studied every photograph.

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