It’s official. We have full custom tuning access via OBD II !

[GT7 Mayhem]

I apologize in advance because I have some noob questions.

First and foremost, How exactly does this work? Do you just plug this thing in and it does the rest?

My car is a stock GT and I just plan on running 93 octane. I assume this means I don't need the add on packages?

Does this void the factory warranty on the car?

As we all know, this car loves to Rev high but is lacking in midrange pull. I assume this tune fixes that in addition to more top end power?

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[ZXMustang]

I apologize in advance because I have some noob questions.

First and foremost, How exactly does this work? Do you just plug this thing in and it does the rest?

My car is a stock GT and I just plan on running 93 octane. I assume this means I don't need the add on packages?

Does this void the factory warranty on the car?

As we all know, this car loves to Rev high but is lacking in midrange pull. I assume this tune fixes that in addition to more top end power?

Oh man you have no idea. It’s like a whole new car.

Watch this on how to do all the tuning.

 

[GrabThatBlue]

How can a 400+ HP car feels like a whole new car if it just adds around 20hp more?

I'm a bit sceptic, especially when tuners make this statement. I'm waiting to see what others say and when the real numbers are out.

 

[kinelisch]

Question on the E85. So if we decide to tune the S650 to E85, does that mean we have the choice to either fill up with 93 AND E85? Or we are stuck with E85 only?

 

[ZXMustang]

How can a 400+ HP car feels like a whole new car if it just adds around 20hp more?

I'm a bit sceptic, especially when tuners make this statement. I'm waiting to see what others say and when the real numbers are out.

None of this is about HP numbers. Its about gains throughout the curve. Pedal demand changes, all the tq modulation lowered or removed for certain drive modes, and the trans refinements.

The trans changes alone turn this car into a beast. We remove all the skip shifting and tq modulation on shifts.

Maybe tuning isnt for you to be honest. Some people are content with the stock drivibility and power. And thats ok. For the rest, its quite a big step up from stock. If you saw the tq modulation and how much the OEM calibration limits airflow and closes the throttle in just about any WOT scenario, you'd be shocked. Furthermore, the car will be 200% more consistent with performance rather that just making one clean WOT pull then everything subsequent pull is heavily sedated by tq management, cat over temp enrichment and throttle blade limiting.

 

[ZXMustang]

Question on the E85. So if we decide to tune the S650 to E85, does that mean we have the choice to either fill up with 93 AND E85? Or we are stuck with E85 only?

Yes we dont do flex tunes anymore. Nobody really does. On the mustang, they are very finicky because the alcohol content is inferred by the data coming from the widebands. Its skewed at best and takes time to learn. Once learned, you have to hit the relearn trigger by filling up a certain amount to start the process again. It can also complete the relearn before the complete new octane has made it all the way through the fuel system. Then your fuel trims will be off until the next relearn.

What you do is you have a 93 and an e85 tune. You run the 93 tune down to almost nothing. Fill up on e85, drive for a bit then stop and flash to the e85 tune to give the fuel time to get through the fuel systems. Same in reverse if you want to go from E to 91/93. This isnt for everyone. If this is your DD and you put a ton of miles on the car and wont have consistent access to E85, you should just stick with 93.

My car isnt a DD. Its a pleasure driver and I go to the track often. I can run full E85 all the time and never worry about where Im going to get it or gas mileage.

 

[GT7 Mayhem]

Oh man you have no idea. It’s like a whole new car.

Watch this on how to do all the tuning.

Ok, so I see how the app and installation process works but I assume for the $800 I would get the device preloaded with the tune specific for my car right? I wouldn't need to send the cars info and wait for a tune to be sent back like the video shows?

 

[ZXMustang]

Ok, so I see how the app and installation process works but I assume for the $800 I would get the device preloaded with the tune specific for my car right? I wouldn't need to send the cars info and wait for a tune to be sent back like the video shows?

No the RTD devices do not hold tunes. They are not preload-able. This isnt like a diablosport or SCT handheld. They are simply the device that connects to the car that facilitates the delivery of tunes from your phone to the car via the TDN app. We put the tunes out in your TDN file and you use your phone to flash them to the car.

We need your OEM tunefile to make changes to. Calibrations are both vin locked and strategy locked to your car, so we need to have a copy of your calibration that can be changed, then it is sent back through the TDN for you to flash.

The days of having preloaded tunes are long gone. Nobody does that and nobody's device does that if you buy some tuner specific device.

The device you get from us is private label, but its a standard HP Tuners RTD4. It can be used for any tuner once you get the device and credits. I have been using my MPVI2+ device since they came out with probably 20 cars at this point. I own it and can use it to flash any car I want. I just need to buy the credits for that car and once I do I can flash that car indefinitely with any many revisions as I want.

 

[Zig]

No the RTD devices do not hold tunes. They are not preload-able. This isnt like a diablosport or SCT handheld. They are simply the device that connects to the car that facilitates the delivery of tunes from your phone to the car via the TDN app. We put the tunes out in your TDN file and you use your phone to flash them to the car.

We need your OEM tunefile to make changes to. Calibrations are both vin locked and strategy locked to your car, so we need to have a copy of your calibration that can be changed, then it is sent back through the TDN for you to flash.

The days of having preloaded tunes are long gone. Nobody does that and nobody's device does that if you buy some tuner specific device.

The device you get from us is private label, but its a standard HP Tuners RTD4. It can be used for any tuner once you get the device and credits. I have been using my MPVI2+ device since they came out with probably 20 cars at this point. I own it and can use it to flash any car I want. I just need to buy the credits for that car and once I do I can flash that car indefinitely with any many revisions as I want.

And the virtual read does what? Just send the vin and you can gen a tune?

 

[DarkMatterGrey]

We can do that for $450 I believe and then the price of the tunes are $500. That’s 91/93, e85 and ghost cam. but this is only with purchase of tuning from me. Otherwise it’s $499 like everyone else.

https://www.p1tuners.com//_paylink/AZf1cxwM

I think this answered one of my questions - what if you’re on a road trip and can only get 91, how do you switch from e85 to 91 tune.

Follow on question, at what point do you switch if it’s 4 gals of e85 and 12 gallons of 91, which if my math is right is e30? So instead of ghost tune, having e30 just in case. Or can the car adjust for this automatically (AFR, timing, etc.)

Where I live there is no 93 (need to make it from 100 and 91), there is e85, but it may not be e85 all the time.

Trying to see how to live with a tuned car as a daily.

 

[SmoothButter]

None of this is about HP numbers. Its about gains throughout the curve. Pedal demand changes, all the tq modulation lowered or removed for certain drive modes, and the trans refinements.

The trans changes alone turn this car into a beast. We remove all the skip shifting and tq modulation on shifts.

Maybe tuning isnt for you to be honest. Some people are content with the stock drivibility and power. And thats ok. For the rest, its quite a big step up from stock. If you saw the tq modulation and how much the OEM calibration limits airflow and closes the throttle in just about any WOT scenario, you'd be shocked. Furthermore, the car will be 200% more consistent with performance rather that just making one clean WOT pull then everything subsequent pull is heavily sedated by tq management, cat over temp enrichment and throttle blade limiting.

No idea about what most of this is but it sounds cool

 

[robvas]

I think this answered one of my questions - what if you’re on a road trip and can only get 91, how do you switch from e85 to 91 tune.

Follow on question, at what point do you switch if it’s 4 gals of e85 and 12 gallons of 91, which if my math is right is e30? So instead of ghost tune, having e30 just in case. Or can the car adjust for this automatically (AFR, timing, etc.)

Where I live there is no 93 (need to make it from 100 and 91), there is e85, but it may not be e85 all the time.

Trying to see how to live with a tuned car as a daily.

A stock car will handle e30

 

[kinelisch]

Yes we dont do flex tunes anymore. Nobody really does. On the mustang, they are very finicky because the alcohol content is inferred by the data coming from the widebands. Its skewed at best and takes time to learn. Once learned, you have to hit the relearn trigger by filling up a certain amount to start the process again. It can also complete the relearn before the complete new octane has made it all the way through the fuel system. Then your fuel trims will be off until the next relearn.

What you do is you have a 93 and an e85 tune. You run the 93 tune down to almost nothing. Fill up on e85, drive for a bit then stop and flash to the e85 tune to give the fuel time to get through the fuel systems. Same in reverse if you want to go from E to 91/93. This isnt for everyone. If this is your DD and you put a ton of miles on the car and wont have consistent access to E85, you should just stick with 93.

My car isnt a DD. Its a pleasure driver and I go to the track often. I can run full E85 all the time and never worry about where Im going to get it or gas mileage.

Oh gotcha. I do have E85 available mostly anywhere here in Florida but not sure if I want to do E85 ONLY

 

[GrabThatBlue]

Maybe tuning isnt for you to be honest. Some people are content with the stock drivibility and power. And thats ok.

I understand you are selling a product and want to make money, but this is the exact reason why I'm not jumping in from the beginning.

I made a legit comment, especially since this tuning is super new and you decided to jump straight to the conclusion that tuning is maybe not for me.

This is how non professionals react when somebody is critical about their product.
Being critical does not mean I'm bashing a product, but I do understand you don't like people who are critical, because a business runs on people who follow others blindly without knowing what it does, how safe it is, etc.

I'm not jumping on a hypetrain until I see real numbers and real experiences from consumers who are not sponsored by businesses that sell this.

 

[DarkMatterGrey]

A stock car will handle e30

That’s not my question. It’s how to switch when e85 is not available (not many stations around me have e85 and 93 needs to blended from 100). So if I fill up on a road trip and I’m down to 1/4 tank, it’s essentially e30. Then after another refill, it’s back to 91, how to switch between them.

Since this is my daily, I’m thinking this isn’t for me. Maybe the Ford procal if/when it comes out for 91+ (since I’m already blending/running 93).

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