Hybrid Mustang (S650E) is on the Horizon!

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[DeluxeStang]

I did mention in another thread about Ford switching to aluminum for the Mustang. That would save a couple of hundred pounds give or take?

I've thought about this as well, the only thing though is how much cost would that add to the mustang?

 

[LouG]

Ditto

 

[DeluxeStang]

Ok, I am by no means an engineer, or even half the mechanic as some of the people on here, but still. So according to our Google AI Overlord, the difference in weight from the Maverick Hybrid FWD and the Maverick Ecoboost FWD, and yes they have different ICE engines, but still, is only 110 lbs.

So if you were to tell me that I could get an extra couple of hundred HP to the front wheels and only add say even 200 lbs of mass in motors and batteries (that can be put under the trunk), to my GT, I'd consider that.

That's what I'm saying as well. Hell, they're making EV motors and battery packs lighter all the time on top of that. So the weight difference might eventually be even more negligible that what we're discussing here.

 

[DeluxeStang]

Platform doesn't support AWD

Which is why Ford hopefully invest in a hybrid mustang for the next gen. It kinda sounds like a lot of the things we were getting for this gen will actually manifest in the next gen. Like we've been hearing about a mustang hybrid, and a mustang sedan for years now, yet it always seems like both of those things are always just around the corner, but never get here.

From my understanding, the current mustang platform can't support hybrid/EV tech, or a sedan with a longer wheelbase. So it would just make a lot of Ford created a fresh RWD platform. Something far more flexible than the current architecture, able to accommodate pure ICE, hybrid, and EV powertrains so the platform is future proof for decades, and flexible enough to be used for both a coupe and sedan, sharing a lot of parts to save costs.

Who knows, if Ford engineers and designers can convince Ford execs the mustang needs a new platform to accommodate hybrid and sedan variants, maybe that'll be their chance to push for other things we've always wanted by never got, like sexier priorities or a lighter weight. Kind of a "Well we're always doing a new platform, so why not" sort of thing.

 

[DeluxeStang]

Luckily, due to my age, I will never have to buy a hybrid/EV when they're the only things available.
The very idea of a hyper expensive battery replacement, not to mention all the extra electronic systems is anathema to me. The idea of throw away cars strikes me as insane.
It's why I bought a relatively simple ICE car.

Bruh, you can hate on hybrids and EVs for certain things, a lot of them are ugly for instance, but ford and Toyota hybrids and Ford EVs are pretty damn reliable. Like the 2.5 e-cvt hybrid used in things like my maverick, that 2.5 has been around from about 2005 and it's literally legendary for it's reliability. Early escape taxi cabs are even more reliable than crown vics as wild as that is.

There are a lot of high mileage mach-e and lightnings popping up now that have had zero issues. Things like battery packs having issues don't happen as quickly, and as often as people think, and when they do, you can often replace specific cells that are the problem instead of having to replace the entire battery pack.

The horror stories of people having to pay 25 grand to replace a battery are generally few and far between. Of the hundreds of thousands of mach-es Ford has sold, I've seen one story on a battery needing to be replaced and it's because the owner drove through a flood with like a foot of water.

 

[Frogdog1]

Ford has a hybrid Mustang. Maybe there are reasons they look like they do and weigh 4400 to 4600 pounds. Go get one!

 

[LouG]

Bruh, you can hate on hybrids and EVs for certain things, a lot of them are ugly for instance, but ford and Toyota hybrids and Ford EVs are pretty damn reliable. Like the 2.5 e-cvt hybrid used in things like my maverick, that 2.5 has been around from about 2005 and it's literally legendary for it's reliability. Early escape taxi cabs are even more reliable than crown vics as wild as that is.

There are a lot of high mileage mach-e and lightnings popping up now that have had zero issues. Things like battery packs having issues don't happen as quickly, and as often as people think, and when they do, you can often replace specific cells that are the problem instead of having to replace the entire battery pack.

The horror stories of people having to pay 25 grand to replace a battery are generally few and far between. Of the hundreds of thousands of mach-es Ford has sold, I've seen one story on a battery needing to be replaced and it's because the owner drove through a flood with like a foot of water.

OK, that may be the case. But the record EV mileage setting Tesla owned by a Norwegian? guy did 2,000,000kms and had 5 battery packs and three rear motors.
A P1800 ICE Volvo which had the record sometime ago still had the same basic drivetrain but did need 2 engine rebuilds, clutches etc over about 2.7,000,000 kms. I know which was the cheaper to do.
I any case, you don't have to convince me, and I don't have to convince you. We are entitled to our differing opinions and beliefs, and how we spend our money.
Mine won't go on an EV, I learned my lesson spending all my pocket money on buying and modifying EV's.
Slot cars, when I was 13.

 

[Gregs24]

Ford has a hybrid Mustang. Maybe there are reasons they look like they do and weigh 4400 to 4600 pounds. Go get one!

What hybrid Mustang do Ford have?

 

[Gregs24]

OK, that may be the case. But the record EV mileage setting Tesla owned by a Norwegian? guy did 2,000,000kms and had 5 battery packs and three rear motors.
A P1800 ICE Volvo which had the record sometime ago still had the same basic drivetrain but did need 2 engine rebuilds, clutches etc over about 2.7,000,000 kms. I know which was the cheaper to do.
I any case, you don't have to convince me, and I don't have to convince you. We are entitled to our differing opinions and beliefs, and how we spend our money.
Mine won't go on an EV, I learned my lesson spending all my pocket money on buying and modifying EV's.
Slot cars, when I was 13.

Both of those are like Triggers broom so pretty meaningless.

Trigger's Broom

Without going to silly extremes there are plenty of high mileage Tesla cars on the their original battery and motor.

High-mileage Tesla Model S Review: How does a 258k mile EV hold up?

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