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[roadpilot]

C8 Z06 does not have FI.

It would be worth adding one aftermarket, but not on the standard C8.

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[Mustang406]

It would be worth adding one aftermarket, but not on the standard C8.

Adding FI to C8 is 25k+. Not really worth it to me. It isn't a Mustang where you can bolt on a Whipple for 10k and grab 300 extra horsepower. For 25k you might get 150-175hp. Those kits are way too expensive for the gains you can get.

 

[Q6543]

In all seriousness, I’ve got another raise coming at work and with how long I’ve been waiting for mods to come out for the mustang….. the E-ray is starting to tempt me.

we’ll see when they’re actually in the ground at dealerships though what the real world prices are….. although speaking of stretching the budget I may wait and finally make the jump to a huracan or mclaren.

the old foxbody would look tough parked next to an exotic.

 

[roadpilot]

Adding FI to C8 is 25k+. Not really worth it to me. It isn't a Mustang where you can bolt on a Whipple for 10k and grab 300 extra horsepower. For 25k you might get 150-175hp. Those kits are way too expensive for the gains you can get.

My money, not yours, right?

 

[Mustang406]

My money, not yours, right?

If that is what you want to do there are Z06 available right now!

 

[Mustang406]

In all seriousness, I’ve got another raise coming at work and with how long I’ve been waiting for mods to come out for the mustang….. the E-ray is starting to tempt me.

we’ll see when they’re actually in the ground at dealerships though what the real world prices are….. although speaking of stretching the budget I may wait and finally make the jump to a huracan or mclaren.

the old foxbody would look tough parked next to an exotic.

I expect markups on ERay but not sure what the market will be for it. The Z06 is really close to the ERay in acceleration and trumps it on a track. I have no idea what the demand for one will be.

 

[Upacurb]

In all seriousness, I’ve got another raise coming at work and with how long I’ve been waiting for mods to come out for the mustang….. the E-ray is starting to tempt me.

we’ll see when they’re actually in the ground at dealerships though what the real world prices are….. although speaking of stretching the budget I may wait and finally make the jump to a huracan or mclaren.

the old foxbody would look tough parked next to an exotic.

I vote you go Huracan or McLaren … I have multiple friends who own both and have gotten quite a bit of seat time in them… I have not driven a C8 z06 but the driving experience in the exotics is far superior to the C8

I would also throw the NSX into your list… they need downpipes and exhaust to sound right… way too quiet stock… but a very very good car… I don’t think people realize how good they are until you drive one…

 

[Karguy]

Funny how far the thread has moved away from the points the original poster made...I agreed with him 100% as the DH unfortunately is nothing more than a new name plus super sticky Pirellis plus additional mark-up on a already compared to SS1LE overpriced Mach 1...Ford could/should have done so much better but at least its the last car standing with a V8 and Tremec manual...Winner by default as Camaro/Challenger gone and the fake Ferrari from Kentucky has gone AARP-Auto only...LOL In that regard the DH is the winner by default ! Product planners at Ford knew that and thats why they did not have to do better and spend some money on a new car...Thats how I see it ! I dont like to buy used performance cars so if I would total my Challenger tomorrow I would probably buy a new DH over a new M2 even the M2 being more fun to drive because I would miss the emotion only a V8 can give you...Would I be happy with it ? Probably not because I would miss the Torque , dream of a lighter chassis that rotates into turns...LOL But I would love the V8 sound inside the cabin and rowing that 6 speed Tremec and dreaming about Recaros as comfortable as the ones in the 1LE...LOL 2.0

 

[Rocket Man]

In all seriousness, I’ve got another raise coming at work and with how long I’ve been waiting for mods to come out for the mustang….. the E-ray is starting to tempt me.
we’ll see when they’re actually in the ground at dealerships though what the real world prices are….. although speaking of stretching the budget I may wait and finally make the jump to a huracan or mclaren.
the old foxbody would look tough parked next to an exotic.

Can you explain this to me? You are currently driving a Foxbody and wanting a new Mustang, but would consider an Eray (125k+) or a 200k+ supercar? Something doesn't add up.

 

[Zengineer]

Funny how far the thread has moved away from the points the original poster made...I agreed with him 100% as the DH unfortunately is nothing more than a new name plus super sticky Pirellis plus additional mark-up on a already compared to SS1LE overpriced Mach 1...Ford could/should have done so much better but at least its the last car standing with a V8 and Tremec manual...Winner by default as Camaro/Challenger gone and the fake Ferrari from Kentucky has gone AARP-Auto only...LOL In that regard the DH is the winner by default ! Product planners at Ford knew that and thats why they did not have to do better and spend some money on a new car...Thats how I see it ! I dont like to buy used performance cars so if I would total my Challenger tomorrow I would probably buy a new DH over a new M2 even the M2 being more fun to drive because I would miss the emotion only a V8 can give you...Would I be happy with it ? Probably not because I would miss the Torque , dream of a lighter chassis that rotates into turns...LOL But I would love the V8 sound inside the cabin and rowing that 6 speed Tremec and dreaming about Recaros as comfortable as the ones in the 1LE...LOL 2.0

Yes, we're all well aware of your "thoughts". Ford is trying to act like a business and as a shareholder I support that. What makes you think they are not selling as many as they planned?
I don't know why you are here at all honestly.
We get it..touch screens bad...not really all new...engine not big enough...heavy...Corvette is from Kentucky.

 

[Rocket Man]

I don't know why you are here at all honestly.
We get it..touch screens bad...not really all new...engine not big enough...heavy...Corvette is from Kentucky.

LOL

 

[Mustang406]

Yes, we're all well aware of your "thoughts". Ford is trying to act like a business and as a shareholder I support that. What makes you think they are not selling as many as they planned?
I don't know why you are here at all honestly.
We get it..touch screens bad...not really all new...engine not big enough...heavy...Corvette is from Kentucky.

If I had known my Corvette was from Kentucky I would have gotten something else. I have buyers remorse now.

 

[Mikepol2]

I personally think the best package for C8 is 2LT with Z51 unless you are going Z06 or ERay. The 1LT has nicer leather than a premium mustang but you don't get the cameras and vented seats. 3LT I didn't think was a worthwhile upgrade.

100%. 2LT with magneride and handling package is $86K-ish before haggling, $83K when you’re done. Much as I hate automatics, that would be a serious consideration if I was looking at a $75K DH.

 

[Karguy]

Yes, we're all well aware of your "thoughts". Ford is trying to act like a business and as a shareholder I support that. What makes you think they are not selling as many as they planned?
I don't know why you are here at all honestly.
We get it..touch screens bad...not really all new...engine not big enough...heavy...Corvette is from Kentucky.

Why I am here in all honesty ? I want Ford to build a better Mustang...Better as in weight , chassis , interior , engine , quality worth the money they are charging for it...I Btw I dont care about shareholders because I am a consumer ! All I want is a better product worth buying because Mustang is now the only game in town ! A win/win for Both customer & company...And yes sales should be up big time since Camaro/Challenger/Corvette are gone as affordable sporty and practical daily drivers with a V8 and manual transmission ! Consider me a future Mustang buyer or not...I ttried pretty much every Mustang since 1986 and had a Fox 5.0 GT and new Cobra after that after I defected to GM and Mopar...Corporations dont know any loyalty but only care about profits so no fanboy here !

 

[Zengineer]

Why I am here in all honesty ? I want Ford to build a better Mustang...Better as in weight , chassis , interior , engine , quality worth the money they are charging for it...I Btw I dont care about shareholders because I am a consumer ! All I want is a better product worth buying because Mustang is now the only game in town ! A win/win for Both customer & company...And yes sales should be up big time since Camaro/Challenger/Corvette are gone as affordable sporty and practical daily drivers with a V8 and manual transmission ! Consider me a future Mustang buyer or not...I ttried pretty much every Mustang since 1986 and had a Fox 5.0 GT and new Cobra after that after I defected to GM and Mopar...Corporations dont know any loyalty but only care about profits so no fanboy here !

The direct competitors are leaving because it is a shrinking market segment. Mustang has had the lions share of the segment for many years but it is a small slice of the overall pie and shrinking steadily. Selling 10,000 specialty go-fast Mustangs instead of 3,000 annually wouldn't even begin to fund the development and production of your meandering wishlist.

If you want loyalty, get a dog.

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