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Any reason not to go with Ford Performance Supercharger?

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The motor is the last thing I'd be worried about breaking. It will handle it.

Halfshafts
Transmission

That's where my guess would be for the first things to let go.
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I have a ā€˜24 Dark Horse. I’m in a small rural town. Performance shops are 250+ miles away. We do have a Ford dealership in town. They are willing to install the Ford Performance supercharger. I’m aware this is a Whipple.

I bought the car to enjoy driving. I won’t be going beyond the supercharger. Just a (more) fun street car. Any reason I wouldn’t want to go with the Ford offering installed at the local dealership?
So all these responses and no one addressed what your concern really is.

For you stated needs the Ford Performance kit will be all you want. You do not need to drive 500+ miles to gave it installed and then again if there is an issue (and there always tends to be an issue 🤭).

Now as far as your dealer, I presume he is FP approved. If you have a high level of confidence in them and their ability to service you after installation then it is my belief that you should move forward.
 

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If you are looking for a street car? Go for the Stage 1 (FP, Lethal or vanilla Whipple)

- Plenty of power over stock
- 150mph top speed (speed limited)
- Warranty(ish)

- NOTES:
It is unlikely you will ever exceed 150mph on the street. If it is; make sure you have both your will and your attorny info on the same table as your keys cause one or the other is gonna be in your future.

You can eventually upgrade from Stage 1 to Stage 2. Lethal has a kit. It will overwrite anything the FP calibration had but if you are upgrading you are done your warranty and want to go bigger.

If you are going for a super meaty grippy grips in the back then yeah, look at your axles and your OPG just to be safe. You gotta pay to play.

If you are going to track the car? Go for the Stage 2.

- More boost and aggressive calibration
- More top speed (Joel claimed he did 200 in WASP on the Dyno run)
- No Warranty (Ford dealerships will laugh at you)

- NOTE they recommend you do your oil pump gears for this kit as well as upgrading axles and if you are tracking a stage 2 then they HIGHLY recommend it.
 


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Another note. I know it’s not your use case but just a heads up.

IF you decide to track (road course) there are cooling issues with the supercharged engines. They cannot go very long on road courses at full tilt. You will spend a lot of time letting things cool while everyone else gets laps in.
 

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OPG?

WASP?
OPG = Oil Pump Gears

WASP = the name of the 2024 GT with a Stage 2, axles, OPG upgrade, carbon intake, open air boxes etc. Look up N2MYGT as that is Joel's channel.

Who is they?
They is them. Honestly, I could give you the exact names, dates and phone numbers of everyone involved and you can ask them why they recommended it. The names would mean next to nothing for those not involved in the conversations.
 

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Another note. I know it’s not your use case but just a heads up.

IF you decide to track (road course) there are cooling issues with the supercharged engines. They cannot go very long on road courses at full tilt. You will spend a lot of time letting things cool while everyone else gets laps in.
Can you elaborate here?
 

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Can you elaborate here?

With about 15-25k in cooling mods (different headers, cooler hood, all the trimmings for cooling) on top of the costs for the supercharger it still overheats in race conditions.

I was looking at doing this, talked to different vendors - Steeda being one and told them i enjoy tracking often. They stated with all of the money above invested it still wouldn't make it 20 mins in a hot summer.

It is not worth it at that point for me.

I am not even good at it but I enjoy learning, going often, and doing it for only 20 mins isn't going to help me improve anything. Despite 850hp being an absolute riot I am sure.

This is not the use case for the original poster but I wanted to make sure they were aware in case that was ever in their mind.
 

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With about 15-25k in cooling mods (different headers, cooler hood, all the trimmings for cooling) on top of the costs for the supercharger it still overheats in race conditions.

I was looking at doing this, talked to different vendors - Steeda being one and told them i enjoy tracking often. They stated with all of the money above invested it still wouldn't make it 20 mins in a hot summer.

It is not worth it at that point for me.

I am not even good at it but I enjoy learning, going often, and doing it for only 20 mins isn't going to help me improve anything. Despite 850hp being an absolute riot I am sure.

This is not the use case for the original poster but I wanted to make sure they were aware in case that was ever in their mind.
So you have a Whipple supercharged Mustang with $25k in cooling modifications? Now I’m more curious! And the resulting car cannot go 20 minutes on a track session?
 

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So you have a Whipple supercharged Mustang with $25k in cooling modifications? Now I’m more curious! And the resulting car cannot go 20 minutes on a track session?
No. I was going to get one and talked about my use case with Steeda and other vendors. They stated it you want to stay out on the track it is not likely with a supercharged dark horse even with the cooling mods because it will overheat and you won't last the full session.


** In a hot summer environment - which is my case.
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