Any reason not to go with Ford Performance Supercharger?

[slodat]

I have a ‘24 Dark Horse. I’m in a small rural town. Performance shops are 250+ miles away. We do have a Ford dealership in town. They are willing to install the Ford Performance supercharger. I’m aware this is a Whipple.

I bought the car to enjoy driving. I won’t be going beyond the supercharger. Just a (more) fun street car. Any reason I wouldn’t want to go with the Ford offering installed at the local dealership?

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[robvas]

I would go stage 2, but go for it. Warning, it may make the car faster than you want.

 

[slodat]

I would go stage 2, but go for it. Warning, it may make the car faster than you want.

I haven’t seen Ford offering stages.. just the one setup.

 

[robvas]

I haven’t seen Ford offering stages.. just the one setup.

Get the Whipple one if ford doesn't have the stage 2

 

[slodat]

Get the Whipple one if ford doesn't have the stage 2

You’re missing the point… I can have a Ford dealership install the Ford Performance supercharger, not one from Whipple.
What does the stage 2 add? Why is it necessary? I’m here to make a good decision. I appreciate your time and advice.

 

[robvas]

You’re missing the point… I can have a Ford dealership install the Ford Performance supercharger, not one from Whipple.
What does the stage 2 add? Why is it necessary? I’m here to make a good decision. I appreciate your time and advice.

They'll do the Whipple one it's the exact same thing.

The stage 2 has a much better tune, smaller pulley, bigger throttle body

You could call whipple and ask if you can just add it after the fact

https://whipplesuperchargers.com/i-2678-s650-mustang-stage1-stage-2-upgrade-kit.html

 

[Junkyard Dog]

You’re missing the point… I can have a Ford dealership install the Ford Performance supercharger, not one from Whipple.
What does the stage 2 add? Why is it necessary? I’m here to make a good decision. I appreciate your time and advice.

Are you still under warranty?

Stage 1 is 810 flywheel horsepower and, if your local dealer installs it as you propose, will maintain a warranty (not quite the same as the original warranty, though, so research closely).

Stage 2 is 875 flywheel horsepower, you are on your own if you throw the pistons through the bottom of the oil pan even if your local dealer installs it.

You can upgrade to the Stage 2 later with a pulley, throttle body, and tune from Whipple.

Choices, choices, choices.

 

[slodat]

Are you still under warranty?

Stage 1 is 810 flywheel horsepower and, if your local dealer installs it as you propose, will maintain a warranty (not quite the same as the original warranty, though, so research closely).

Stage 2 is 875 flywheel horsepower, you are on your own if you throw the pistons through the bottom of the oil pan even if your local dealer installs it.

You can upgrade to the Stage 2 later with a pulley, throttle body, and tune from Whipple.

Choices, choices, choices.

Car is still under 900 miles. Half of which I put on it yesterday. Unbelievably satisfying car to drive. I know more power would be fun. Just going to drive it. I think I’ll just go with the Ford Performance setup. I don’t think I care about that little bit more HP.

 

[Junkyard Dog]

Please keep us updated on what you decide, installation, driving after, etc.

 

[Q6543]

I’d go stage 2 without the warranty over FRPP dealer install with warranty

differences include throttle body size, lower boost pulley, tuning limits on top speed and rpm

 

[Junkyard Dog]

I was unaware - what does it do to the top speed? There is a limiter built into Stage 1?

 

[Billycar11]

With the Whipple kit you have more options like.
Paint color
Intercooler size
Amount of pumps
Warranty or no warranty
Intake tubes
Pulley size
If you get it on a black Friday sale it will be cheaper than the Ford one that does not go on sale as much
Seen the Whipple kits for as much as 15% off

That would save you over 1/3 on install

 

[Q6543]

https://www.mustang7g.com/forums/threads/speed-limiter-140mph.162745/page-1

 

[135Hoser]

The logic / flow chart on this one is really easy

Do you have 14-30k on hand for a replacement motor, plus labour?

If the answer to this is anything but "heck yeah! I wanna sink in another 50% of what I paid into the car", then get the stage 1 FRPP kit that comes with something that resembles a warranty.

The warranty won't fix /everything/ but you get about $10k split up between various parts. most of it is for the engine and transmission, which is about what the kit costs.

Also considering your motor has basically zero miles on it, and could develop an issue, even if the engine was fucked from the factory the second you put a stage 2 whipple kit on it, even if the dealer installs it, you're on your own.

I've had plenty of fast cars, sometimes the power on mine is a little inconsistent but I think that might be from a pulley issue. but who cares I've got warranty.

I'm having plenty of fun with my stage 1 car, right now my tires are holding me back. I can upgrade to a larger heat exchanger if I want, but IATs aren't getting excessive. Car seems happy with 94 octane. There's a few parts where the car is actually adding a couple degrees of timing.

I found the Dark Horse to be a bit slow from factory. The whipple woke it right up and its really fun now.

 

[Cucurú]

You’re missing the point… I can have a Ford dealership install the Ford Performance supercharger, not one from Whipple.
What does the stage 2 add? Why is it necessary? I’m here to make a good decision. I appreciate your time and advice.

The Stage 2 has larger twin throttle assemblies . Ford Whipple $10k with warranty. Whipple same price for a stage 2. Kind of a more bang for the buck. When the Big Bang happens, if it happens there's no warranty to repair the lovely Dark Horse. Keep in mind, your 3.75 axle is plenty in town, and a Procharger HO comes on a bit later from great freeway on ramp power and freeway cruise at a mere 47 Lbs. The monster whipple is a Godzilla under your hood at 160 Lbs. With that Whipple you'll be needing $2300 half shafts too boot. So are you a died in the wool drag racer or track racer? Try to stay away from racing products and people's peer pressure. Most here are full of it. Take care of your Dark Horse. Enjoy it, don't beat it to death. Whipple is a Mustang killer. You'll bust parts.

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