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  1. Thoughts and Expecations on Mustang S650 - Technology and Performance

    You are certainly welcome to stand by it, but by definition it’s just not correct. The Mustang’s handling is not ā€œunacceptableā€œ to the vast majority of it’s buyers. In fact, when used for the purpose each individual model is designed for itā€˜s perfectly acceptable, even good. Look, words matter...
  2. Thoughts and Expecations on Mustang S650 - Technology and Performance

    I’m not sure what your frame of reference might be, but to describe S550 handling as ā€œunacceptableā€œ seems to me to sail right past the simple exaggeration zone directly into ridiculousness. I have two and I push ā€˜em pretty hard on the street, but never once have I felt the need to increase my...
  3. Single exhaust tip standard on S650 GT

    One would think. But they give the distinct appearance of being stickered up and ready to ship. Of course, Ford says summer and I trust Ford.
  4. Single exhaust tip standard on S650 GT

    Wait. Assuming that pic was taken at Ford, are we to believe they have those things laying around ready to ship but plan to hold on to them until summer?
  5. Hmmm…wonder how this will play out?

    Are any motor vehicles?
  6. Hmmm…wonder how this will play out?

    I have no idea who trademarked the moniker ā€œDark Horseā€ first, but it’s a pretty safe bet that either Ford or Indian will be rethinking it. No way the suits will let it pass. https://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/chief-bobber-dark-horse/
  7. 2024 Mustang GT 1/4 mile times

    Yep, just way too many variables for a few ponies difference in the factory rating to matter much. I personally tickle the Toledos around 270 + on a good day. Hell, I could skip two or three double cheese Whoppers in a week and lose 2/10th off my ET. Plus, you can’t ever forget about output...
  8. 2024 Mustang GT 1/4 mile times

    This is probably the most accurate guess by far. There are way too many other variables that come into play for a few hp one way or the other to be the only factor that moves the needle. This is the same reason the ā€˜22s haven’t proven to run consistently any slower than the ā€˜21s. The quality...
  9. Styling? Whats happening?

    Oh thank goodness. No wonder I didn’t understand it. I would have been embarrassed if I had.
  10. Is 486hp enough?? Let’s discuss

    Don’t forget the good ol’ ADM, especially in the beginning.
  11. Years financing a S650

    Huh? You know what they say about holding out both hands then expecting in one and… I recently bought a base 2022 301a GT with only two options: BAP and AE. It sailed right past 44K.
  12. Styling? Whats happening?

    So, what does ā€œin their feelsā€ even mean? Is it English? And whatever it is, why is it enjoyable?
  13. Red & Black Stripes Spied on Carbonized Gray 2024 Mustang GT w/Bronze Appearance Package

    When a new body style of an existing model is released it’s pretty common for me to take up to a year to warm up to it. I’m sure that’s not unusual. But wow, those first few pics in the OP just don’t do it for me at all compared to the S550. I realize that’s completely subjective and others...
  14. Would you pay over MSRP to get in an S650?

    I’ve done it successfully twice in the last 4 months with two different dealers and I’ll be happy to save you doing any research. There’s really nothing to it. Talk to a sales guy and have enough of a conversation to verify that he’s not an idiot while simultaneously letting him know you’re a...
  15. Official! All-New 2024 Mustang S650 Dark Horse Delivers 500 HP, GT 486 HP, EcoBoost 315 HP

    Exactly. But that doesn’t stop them from putting a premium on stuff they can’t use. I was gonna say it’s the American way but I’m pretty sure it’s worldwide. Come to think of I shouldn’t use the word ā€œtheyā€. I’m guilty too. Not so much on the PPs and HPs but I’d go out of my way to get a few...
  16. Official! All-New 2024 Mustang S650 Dark Horse Delivers 500 HP, GT 486 HP, EcoBoost 315 HP

    And this is something that most bench racers, including myself, often forget or ignore. It’s the same principle IMO that applies to a lot of non-track PP and HP owners. Sure, you got the capability but if you don’t track your car where you really gonna use it and are you personally good enough...
  17. Official! All-New 2024 Mustang S650 Dark Horse Delivers 500 HP, GT 486 HP, EcoBoost 315 HP

    And, not to bring up a sore subject but what about the often debated compression ratio?
  18. S650 Mustang Horsepower (450hp) Revealed In Window Sticker? šŸ™„

    Oh ok, thanks. Excuse my overlooking the obvious. Itā€˜s about time the guys who spring those big bucks get some recognition for their money.
  19. S650 Mustang Horsepower (450hp) Revealed In Window Sticker? šŸ™„

    GT Performance? Huh? Did I miss a whole model?





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