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  1. Rant after driving a M2 and M3

    I would pay for a 2025 if it was priced correctly. It absolutely is not, especially considering what the above comment said about the predatory practice of dealerships. The 2025 is not priced correctly after inflation and wage increases. If it were, you wouldn’t be seeing anyone complain about it.
  2. Rant after driving a M2 and M3

    And everyone has been saying that price increase is not in line with the price increase that it should be lol you’re acting like you’re just an innocent bystander, but you’ve been going on and on about how the union deal was awful and how it will destroy the business and cause layoffs. None of...
  3. Rant after driving a M2 and M3

    Brother you’re the one trying to justify a price increase on a Mustang that makes no sense lol I already have the 2024 dark horse. You say you have no stocks in ford but you’re preaching like a shareholder talking about how increases in labor costs is gonna bring down the company. Sounds like...
  4. Rant after driving a M2 and M3

    Using this number, if labor is 4% of a vehicle and the cost of it went up to 8%. Apply that number to the 25 BILLION dollar profit that ford had last year. Am I supposed to shed tears for a company that is pulling in billions in revenue @Mustang1987 ? Please cry me a river defending this...
  5. Rant after driving a M2 and M3

    Also with this food thing. I think you’re forgetting the one reason why people don’t complain as much about food inflation (and they still do because it’s valid) is because food is required to live. Do you need a mustang to live?
  6. Rant after driving a M2 and M3

    So explain how taking away colors and making packages more expensive plays into the calculations? Explain how if you spec the same exact car it’ll come out to 4-5k more than last year? Your argument about layoffs and wages destroying the company also relies on the fact that ford is barely...
  7. Rant after driving a M2 and M3

    If that number you mentioned is correct then that completely dismantles what mustang1987 has been saying the whole time about the wages being the reason increasing the price of the car 😀
  8. Rant after driving a M2 and M3

    And law of supply and demand is simple. Demand for the Mustang will go down and people will move onto cheaper options. Power to the consumer. Surely you as a business owner would understand that part of it.
  9. Rant after driving a M2 and M3

    Put them to work on a worthwhile project then. Whenever the Mustang does die, move them to something that’ll make money and make more of that. It’s funny how you’re trying to villainize me for wanting workers to be paid a fair wage and wanting a fair price for the consumer as well like that’s...
  10. Rant after driving a M2 and M3

    You can definitely have both if you’re a good business. Other car companies have done this as well, as someone stated above Chevy is tied to the same union deal. They worked it out. And like I said above, if they killed the Camaro for that and the Mustang dies, then it is what it is man...
  11. Rant after driving a M2 and M3

    Sure, and I’ll be happy that ford is paying these workers more. Kill the Mustang and kill any high cost vehicles and only sell F150s which print money. Again, like this argument you’re trying to pull with buying a foreign car being bad is ridiculous.
  12. Rant after driving a M2 and M3

    Exactly, like this isn’t some crazy conclusion we are all coming to. It’s been proven time and time again. It’s exactly why American OEMs are frightened at the prospect of Chinese EVs entering the market. Cheaper will always attract the consumer
  13. Rant after driving a M2 and M3

    Layoffs are a direct result of corporate greed and poor planning. If you are financial planning and do not take into account every possible scenario, including a recession, then you are awful at your job. You’re really sitting here and saying the ford finance team could not account for a union...
  14. Rant after driving a M2 and M3

    Or and I’m gonna get an insane reply for this: the entire c suite can reduce their pay and the company can reduce other costs to offset. But we both know executives will never do that.
  15. Rant after driving a M2 and M3

    My good man, if that is what’s gonna happen and the Mustang dies, then that is what is gonna happen.
  16. Rant after driving a M2 and M3

    Again, good for the workers. It’s been a long time coming.
  17. Rant after driving a M2 and M3

    And the consumer will vote with their wallet. You already see the reaction of Mustang fans reacting to this. You can see on other social media the reaction. It’s not good for the consumer, and they will go for a cheaper option. Again, if this means the Mustang will die, then I’m totally fine...
  18. Rant after driving a M2 and M3

    Again, the price increase on the base car is 5%. But how do you explain an almost 10+% increase in price if you spec it out with packages? People say 4-5k increase for same specs. That’s around 10%. Unless ford was expecting a 10% increase in inflation, that is absurd. Even 5% increase in...
  19. Rant after driving a M2 and M3

    This is getting too political, but I’m pro union. If it means people getting paid for their work, I’m all for it. Still doesn’t mean I’m happy about ford price increasing though. If your argument is that this is a direct result of that, then I will counter that ford themselves should be...
  20. Rant after driving a M2 and M3

    Believe it or not, if it kept parity with inflation across all packages and price. I.e if I spec the exact same car and didn’t get a 10% increase in price and only got 3%, I would not be complaining at all. But for all builds, you’re seeing a much higher than 3% increase. It’s a couple hundred...





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