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  1. Has anyone concrete news about EUROPE avaiability of S650 ?

    Already filmed that, check the video at 13:35 It sounds slightly different on film to the 18 GT because of the different environment, to our ears it sounded identical to 18 GT Already checked that, the EU GT has the USB port behind the mirror 👍 Good point, will check that Should be a GT...
  2. Has anyone concrete news about EUROPE avaiability of S650 ?

    I will be able to drive a EU S650 next week and record it. If anybody has special things he wants to know or see, please let me know. Car is brand new, so of course no performance measurements
  3. Europe order tracking?

    Yes, the european dealer can track the status with build date, estimated shipping and estimated arrival date. But in my experience most dealers will only call you once the car arrives at their lot and don't track your order regularly
  4. Europe order tracking?

    With Gen 6 you could track your EU Mustang by using the Ford API, the web tools did nothing. But afaik Ford killed all the european connections years ago, so no tool can show you anything for export models
  5. Engine (EU) DH vs GT ?

    The DH has a shorter axle ratio. This is a special thing for europe as US GTs with Performance Package gets the same ratio as Dark Horses EU GT vs EU DH AT: 3.15 vs 3.55 MT: 3.55 vs 3.73
  6. European Pricing & Configurator Released for 2024 Mustang

    Of course you can upgrade power. You just have to measure and adjust the new pollution values since taxes are bound to this value - Otherwise it counts as tax evastion. But S650 has an encrytped ECU. While there will be cracked ECUs in the future for sure, it becames quite expansive to gett a...
  7. Has anyone concrete news about EUROPE avaiability of S650 ?

    Yes, you can already find some of the S650 in the showrooms at car selling sites. And I know someone who reserved on of the early build DH at a dealer. Seems like the DHs will arrive around March. Here's the GT I filmed up for sales with a discount: Ford Mustang 5.0 GT NEUES MODELL SITZBELĂśFTUNG...
  8. European Pricing & Configurator Released for 2024 Mustang

    I don't know if you have to modify the ECU for that. That could be a problem since the ECU of the S650 is encrytped and I think it hasn't been unlocked by a tuner yet
  9. Acceleration standard/dark horse - manual vs auto

    Since you can get like 17% discounts on M2 here in Germany (not M240i, the real 460 hp one) it starts at 64k€, Dark Horse with let's say 10% discount starts at 65k€. With options (HUD, assistants, etc) you can get the M2 in the mid-70k range. So I would say in the final price you pay the M2...
  10. Acceleration standard/dark horse - manual vs auto

    While European GTs have the Performance Package included we don't get the axle ratio that usually comes with that on US models. The EU GT has 3.15 AT and 3.55 MT. EU Dark Horse has 3.55 AT and 3.73 MT. It actually is a big step down from 18 GT, which already came with 3.55 AT as standard...
  11. Pure Sound of the 2024 EU GT and EU Dark Horse

    The GTs with GPF (since 2018) sound great. Could be little bit louder maybe, but they don't sound muffled to me. The 15 GT was laughably bad in comparison and definitely needed aftermarket adjustments
  12. European Pricing & Configurator Released for 2024 Mustang

    There is no remote start or rev on the remote key for EU models. Maybe remote start might work through Ford Pass App
  13. First showroom cars at German dealerships

    All EU models seem to have Auto Start-Stop, but at least we can deactivate it completely for the driving modes. So it seems like modes like Sport and Track don't have it on and for your custom modes you can set it up as you want. That's my understanding of remote start in europe too, but the...
  14. Auto Start Stop System

    You can set up your drive mode to deactivate start stop completely for the mode
  15. First showroom cars at German dealerships

    @VLG To my ears and my friends who where there to check out the car too, the 18 GT and 24 GT sounded the same. The minor difference might be having the 24 standing in a hall with a desk behind the rear while the 18 was out in the open.
  16. Pure Sound of the 2024 EU GT and EU Dark Horse

    Ford released some new rolling footage of the EU models with some great sound examples
  17. European Pricing & Configurator Released for 2024 Mustang

    The dealer I was had the showcased 2024 GT down from ~66k€ to ~62k€, so that's a 6% discount without any negotiation. So I guess 8-10% should be possible for orders
  18. First showroom cars at German dealerships

    It was an GT with Automatic and didn't have any remote start or remove rev button on the keyfob. US Key EU Key (unchanged to 2018 GT) Yeah Grabber as a metallic paint looks really nice. I think it's the same as on the last Focus RS Yeah hopefully they will add it later. Without the...
  19. First showroom cars at German dealerships

    Got a call on Friday from the dealer next to me that they also got their first GT. Went there on saturday for a first look and damn, I never though the S650 would blow me away like this. First the exterieur. They absolutely nailed it imho. Front finally doesn't look sloped down anymore and has...
  20. EU deliveries sooner than expected?

    Yeah, it's always hard to directly compare prices with all the different discounts you can get. I recently saw a dealer giving 15% on a M2 order, that's quite crazy and brings low spec models into sub 70k prices. I guess it comes down to if you want to be early owner of a EU S650 will most...





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