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On the topic of things that are illegal in some states, but shouldn't be. Not having a front license plate. I firmly believe every car looks better once you remove the front plate, but it's "illegal" where I live. I'm thinking about rolling the dice.

I called it toxic because Shotgun started essentially saying anyone who liked evs, or saw their potential had a low IQ. I just think it's toxic to accuse other individuals of being fools because they have a different perspective than you.

This conversation is getting quite toxic and has ventured away from the original topic at hand. The way I see it, evs have their flaws. But they've made more progress in 10 years than ICE cars have in 50. Most of the shortcomings of EVs can be attributed to the fact that evs haven't received...

Can't wait to see it, you're hyping me up Jem. I need to calm down lol.

Outstanding job, will be a gorgeous car for sure.

Wait, is the 3.3 a modified version of the 3.5 duratec from the previous gen then? My family has that engine in their 2017 explorer. Super reliable.

This thought crossed my mind as well. How much does the tremecs cost compared to the mt-82? If Ford was going to do some batshit over the top halo mustang, I would love to see a 5.2 predator with a hybrid system. Could feasibly make 1,000 hp. Throw in agressive styling/aero and some light weigh...

I know it probably won't happen, but I've been saying for awhile that ford should take this approach with the tri-bars. Would look really sexy and futuristic, while also taking advantage of 90s nostalia.

I believe Jem said imagine the mach-e lights, but without the vertical line in the middle, and a more extreme angle.

That's an impressive bulge.

Detective Because_murica is on the case! I just wanted to tell you good luck, we're all counting on you.

How about both? Some of the best looking designs are the ones that expertly blend sharp lines with flowing curved surfaces.

I can't recall if that gray sketch was done as an s550 proposal, or if it was created by a fan, but I love it. If the general shape of the s650 looked like that, I'd be in love. Maybe just sharpen up the edges a little so it flows better with the more agressive fron end. But that's it.

Say what you will, be there will be entire books written about that beautiful 'stash.

I'm dying to know, what the status on your chub right now? Is it still going strong? These are the answers everyone on this forum needs bro. Don't leave us hanging (pun intended?)

Maybe it's the color, or that angle, but I think that design looks great. Prob ford's best looking sedan in the last few decades at least. Shame it won't be coming to the N. American market.

I noticed that as well. It looks a little narrower, and seems like it protrudes more. Maybe a different front end design for a trim level we haven't seen yet? Or it could just be the camo tricking us.

I sound like a broken record There was no way ford copied those headlights, the design of the s650 was already locked in most likely before this Alfa was revealed. That being said, I'm ok with them looking similar, those lights are super sexy.

Nah, that's just camo good sir, the s550 had the exact same thing. Wouldn't make any sense to put the gas cap there, wouldn't serve any purpose and it would look worse. Would require a decent amount of work and compromise the car with no real advantages.

Ford apparently filed a patent for a hydrogen powered v8. I wouldn't be surprised if future mustangs were a combination of all electric and hydrogen. Hydrogen for people who want a sound and experience pretty similar to ICE cars while still owning a zero emissions vehicle, all electric for...