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But again, you guys seem to be thinking of the mustang as Ford's 911. When Ford sees mustang as it's Porsche, and the coupe or mach-e as the 911 and macan naming structures. Think of what happened with Ram trucks for instance. It used to be Dodge Ram, as in Dodge was the brand, and Ram was the...

The charger was literally considered to be, and often is still considered to be, one of the most iconic muscle cars from the 60s. It went sedan only, and was fine. Hence my argument that the mustang should be fine offering both, offer both, and let consumers decide, nothing wrong with that...

Flat Rock apparently has some sort of secretive additional product coming. Some employees know what it is, but won't say, only saying it wasn't a mustang raptor or sedan, but something else that would excite people. But they've said this product hasn't been talked about as much post UAW strikes.

The issue people need to realize with the "A proper mustang needs to be blank" argument, is that would kill the mustang, and all other sports coupes out there. Think about it, how many enthusiasts think the only "proper" mustangs have a V8 and a manual? How many of them, if they were in the...

I own a maverick with a 2.5 hybrid. The 2.5 is a rock solid reliable, last longer than you sort of hybrid system, very reliable, and fuel efficient. But it's not terribly fast, 0-60 in the maverick hybrid is about 7 seconds. So that powertrain isn't happening for a mustang. The cheap, low...

It's freaking wild to me how people can seriously thing a V8 powered performance sedan will tarnish the mustangs heritage when you had things like the '71-73 land barge, or pinto based mustang 2. Most of the mustang sedan renderings I've seen are better looking than basically any mustang from 71...

I get where you guys are coming from, but here's the thing, you're viewing the brand as Ford, and the mustang as a model. Ford is viewing the mustang and bronco basically as their own brands, and things like coupe and mach-e are the model. In other words, Ford doesn't seem the mustang as the...

Yeah, all jokes aside, the Camaro and challenger are great pony cars in their own ways. I'll be real, I thought all the comments on the Camaro's visability were exaggerated, then I sat in one.

I will be curious to see what this means going forward. I find it highly likely this whole mustang supercar idea is something that spans several generations to come. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Ford was able to learn from the development process of the GTD, and trickle that tech down to...

At first, I wouldn't be surprised if the first GTDs to hit the market are going for like 500k at dealerships. But 5, 10, 15 years from now. It'll be interesting to see what the long term used values are like. Are one hand, it's a really cool, and great performing car, on the other hand it's...

That GTD is just so badass. It's like a mustang, '05 Ford gt, and second gen Ford gt all came together to create this kickass baby. It's genuinely near the top of my "Expensive as hell, but still possibly obtainable if I live like a hermit" cars. I can't think of many six figure track weapons I...

What's there to complain about? The 2025 Camaro is the best Camaro Chevy has ever built... Oh wait.

Probably for areo, or maybe p Well now I'm left wondering. If a mustang driven on roads so often finds itself in the grass, does a mustang lawnmower driver find themselves on the road when they lose control? The good old criss cross.

Exactly, never ever kill the coupe. As long as the coupe stays alive, and the other mustang body styles are at least somewhat fast and fun, while being somewhat car-like, I'm ok with it.

Something I think people aren't taking into account with multiple mustang models is economies of scale Dodge hadn't made a good looking muscle car this century. Their designers just aren't very good. The challenger was the misproportioned ass of a Kardashian, the old charger was a lumpy potato...

What you call posers, I call creating a viable business case. It's odd to complain about merchandising like the latest e-bike thing. That's not really any different than putting the mustang name and logo on a shirt or coffee mug. The mustang isn't a cup, or piece of clothing either, but...

I'd imagine so, but I don't own an s650... yet.

Hey, at least that's one way to look at it. I know most of us are disappointed, but at least it's something new. They aren't pulling an r35 at least and basically keeping the same car for 15 years.

God willing Ford does something else seeing as Goodwood is going on right now, and apparently the Woodward cruise thing as well. Seems like a perfect time to show something, but I guess not. I guess they'll just give us the "breathtaking revelation" that the 60th anniversary edition they...

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