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I'm guessing 11.9... similar to what the s550 a10 ran... I would agree 11.7 might be possible if not for the extra weight

Agree... unfortunately if you follow the prices of the Mach 1s... they are seeing depreciation similar to the GT. I anticipate that the Dark Horse will follow a similar pattern. I am seeing handling pack Mach 1s in the 50s by me. In order to really maintain value the Dark Horse needed a...

OK see this is what drives me crazy - from both Car and Driver articles Dark Horse Similarly, while tire grip is ever-present, the steering lacks crucial communication when turning in or adjusting midcorner. While the wheel is direct and accurate to the direction it's pointed, it tells you...

So according to Car and Driver GT350R 1/4 mile - 12.0@120 0-60 3.8 (Mach 1 is 4.3 to 60 and 12.6 in 1/4 mile/ same MPH as Dark Horse) But braking- 350R is 301 feet from 100 to 0 so Dark Horse posted better braking distance (Mach 1 286) Road Holding GT350R 1.11 vs 1.07 for Dark Horse...

Basically with one magazine going one way and another going the other... makes it a drivers race ... Other things missing are track prep and temperature variances... I think most likely may need to wait for someone to line them up side by side to get answers

I agree with you. If I had a 18+ GT or Mach I wouldn't switch ... But if I had a 15 to 17 or no Mustang at all... and wanted a new car vs used I would strongly consider the 24 Mustang... OK I would probably buy a 24 Mustang lol

So according to the article about them changing... technically the old car should have even faster times... So the old car is faster with higher trap speeds.. tires and weight over coming the extra power... I say so what if the old car is faster? I'm pretty sure 9 out of 10 races my car will...

First Mustang? I don't know... on my GT350R I can point out all sorts of panel gaps and problems... they are no BMW but they will offer M4 performance at a discount... that being said..."at a discount " usually translates to something... If you get one that's perfect... awesome... but at over...

Dark I think 10K over is a pretty decent price given you are getting one of the first ones... I would pay it. I wouldnt pay `15K over and definitely wouldnt pay 20K to 25K over

Umm there is 4 to 5 of them within 100 miles of me at 10K over sticker....1 for 15K over sticker..... Pretty much mirrors Mach 1 pricing when they first came out- I would expect the Dark Horse to follow similar trends to the Mach 1

If I was in the market for a 24 GT- the two here.... GB and Black with Night Pony .....those are the two color combos I would pick I like all colors- but these two are my favorite - I either like all black or look at me colors

There are several advertised for +10 around me- southern CA market .....technically you could buy and ship for less than +15

I know other side of the country- but I am in zip code 92887 - within 100 miles of me there are 4-5 for 10K over sticker...as that is the advertised price I would imagine with some haggling eventually you could get them to knock a couple of grand off of that as inventory starts to flow in ....

No one is paying 100 -130 plus for a Dark Horse and if they are ...then they have made a poor choice and are throwing money away..... For 100 to 130 you could buy a GT500 CFTP HE or a GT350R HE See Mach 1 pricing for reference. I would expect the Dark Horse to follow a similar trend... Since...

Yes ... GT350 more like the Z06 ... wider... unique motor... much more different I had a PP1 before... also had a C5 Z06 and currently have a GT350R ... I would definitely not call the PP1 or the Dark Horse the Z06 of Mustangs Maybe the Grand Sport might be better comparison?

The only reason I did the PP1 on my last Mustang was because of the gauges in the middle of the dash- I really liked the way the interior looked much better....... If I was to buy a GT today- I would save the 5K..not get the PP and do wheels/ tires/ suspension mods - just would order with the...

I usually fill out credit app before- have price negotiated before- tell them what time I will be there and that if it takes me longer than an hour at the dealership Im walking out and buying a different car - test drive- 15 minutes - 20 minutes wait for finance- about 20 minutes to do...

I wouldnt worry much about mark ups in todays market- GT350s and GT500s several years old with decent miles are still going for over sticker price .....heck mine is 4 years old with 15K miles and I would still get over sticker if I sold it today.... Maybe 4 years from now prices might go back...

I drove other GT350s before I bought mine- so when I found mine I didnt drive it- just negotiated and bought it- if I had never driven an S650 before- I would want to drive it first to make sure I actually liked driving it ......