Seems to be tons of talk about steering - more direct vs less feel -
How would you compare the Dark Horse to Mach 1 or 350R in terms of steering feel/ turn in/ exc ?
Yes and I can definitely say without a doubt my 350R 10000% tramlines -
It sounds like turn in is faster on the new car- so there it is improved.....more direct....but with less feel and assuming no tramlining since not mentioned
So I can see how it might feel better to some- worst to others...
I have watched 2 reviews so far....and both of them mention light steering/ lack of feedback.....but that you can listen to the tires (if you dont have the exhaust in loud mode) and feel the car....
I watched the one with the GT350 owner as was very curious to get his feedback- overall...
I'm with you 100% hence why I have a 350 now and not a 500... I could care less about lap times or drag racing... I mean it I just wanted to win drag races I'd buy a Tesla...
To me it's all about experience hence why I'm back with a manual
Prior to my GT350 I owned an 18 PP1 10 speed car......prior to that I would have NEVER considered getting an automatic Mustang....but the 10 speed in the GT is that good......its extremely intuitive and yes you can still use paddle shifters but in sport mode didnt ever feel like I really needed...
They repaved the track between when the GT350 ran and when the Mach 1 ran....different days/ different temperatures.....different pavement.... so yes there is an issue with comparing the 2 track times....
That being said....I dont expect the times would be that far off- same for the Dark Horse...
For comparison....the Throttle House review on the GT350
Ford Shelby GT350R Quick Review // One Of The All-Time Greats - YouTube
They call the steering great.....so thats what makes me crazy....Ford has the capability......so why not....I mean at this point say if the MSRP is 1000 more for...
From Road and Track
"A numb front end with next to zero steering feel doesn’t help things, and occasionally creates a sketchy ice-skatey vibe because you don’t know how much grip is available."
Starting to wonder if some reviewers just kissing Fords ....you know what to stay in good graces
PS...
The crazy thing with the throttle house review was that they loved the steering in the GT350....I was really hoping they would have taken what they learned with the GT350 steering and applied it to the standard S650 GT .......not a huge fan of over boosted steering ....well at least they said it...
Also should be noted the Mach 1 lap time was 3 years later after they had repaved the circuit .. different weather conditions...not saying it won't be close but I'd like to see same driver same day same track...if you just want the best magazine numbers buy a Tesla ...
Not hating on the Dark Horse... I love all Mustangs... but the gen 2 Voodoo is MUCH less prone to burn oil or have issues then the first one. If you check the S550 forums.. you will see F150 Coyote motors also burn oil... in fact the Coyote in my Roush F150 burns more oil then my gen 2 voodoo as...
All you people talking trash on the 7.3 ...meanwhile Cleetus bolted one into a foxbody added turbos and its going 7s
That being said I don't think Ford will drop it in
100% worth it. If I was ordering an s650 I would 10000% get active exhaust... both for the functionality and the looks ... on my 350R I leave the valves open 100% of the time but when I had my 19 PP1 car I would definitely use the different modes...road trip vs Sunday morning cruise.... I took...
If you need to run the cheapest gas in your DH then I would suggest buying a cheaper car. If you are going to only keep a few years... run whatever gas you want... if you plan on keeping your car long term... no Costco gas ... run the good stuff...20+ years in the automotive aftermarket and have...
Anyone seen what the GT350s are selling for on Bring A Trailer vs. The Mach 1s? Yep must be that unreliable motor holding the values way down... oh wait...
Umm the generation 2 Voodoo is reliable... there are some 350s in the 350 forum with over 70k miles on them. The early gen 1s had some problems with burning oil and the oil filters coming loose if not torqued properly.. so if you didn't check your oil every tank of gas ... yes people had issues...