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Produce that evidence please Here is my evidence to the contrary 115925.pdf Here is some data that confirms that starter motor wear is NOT an issue. (Plus ISG's are replacing starter motor systems for increased efficiency making the argument null and void anyway). So opinion (without data)...

If 'doing your own thinking' means believing Breitbart then you are in deep trouble. If you just want to see what matches your agenda then crack on, but it doesn't mean it is true. You do know John Nolte is an author not a scientist? Simply not worth wasting time on you or anything you say -...

Astonishing. Even a thread on the Ford bot somehow ends up with a BBQ tick discussion!

My 2007 Lotus Elise did exactly this 20 years or so ago. The AC and water radiators are next to each other and the fan came on whenever the AC was on with a secondary cooling of the engine coolant.

Lots of cars do this as you say. The fan usually blows over the AC condenser and the water radiator at the same time.

Nah, correct oil, just pissing in the screenwash bottle :wink:

I'm afraid it does. Stop start has been around for 30+ years on millions of cars - the reliability data IS there. Your logic is a flawed opinion IGNORING the evidence. Modern engines are designed for stop start as are modern lubricants. How do you explain the millions of cars with stop start...

I aim to please :wink:

Indeed the evidence and data is there. As I have pointed out over and over if people want to turn it off then fine, but the evidence proves the value of stop start. Of course some on here can't help themselves with puerile insults over and over again to anybody who holds a contrary opinion to...

:yawn: It's just copy and paste now - nothing better to say?

You do like the sound of your own voice don't you! Keeps slinging insults (not sure why you feel that is acceptable) and then suggests it is I that was insulting you :crackup: A bit of advice, people with a different view to you are entitled to that view in a country with free speech like...

Propaganda - really dredging the bottom now. Keep the tinfoil hat on :crackup:

I was waiting for Greta - took you a while to remember. Sooooo predictable Pony car by the way :crackup:

So predictable - standard insults over and over again. You forgot to say I should drive a Prius and wear pink underwear. You do realise your playbook responses make you look mighty silly :giggle:

Oh sorry forgot that one. If I'm a sheep you are a tick!

At least one does! As mentioned the GT is considerably better mpg than most trucks and SUV's so perfectly sensible to prefer the GT with stop start to save fuel! Porsche have it on the 911 which is considerably sportier than the Mustang. As I have said many times, turn it off if you don't like...

That is not right!

Well nothing to do with my career! Just remember the Mustang uses a LOT less fuel than many SUV's and trucks so is already actually better! Saving a bit more with stop start is a bonus. I'm not so insecure I need to sit listening to a V8 burning fuel for no reason.

OMG that old chestnut :yawn: No, you are just luddites :crackup: Next you will be moaning about being insulted ........... Then you will be saying you don't care what other people think ...... Playbook No.1

GDi engines typically push out some black smoke on startup. I had a Mondeo with 2.0 Ecoboost that did that from new and was still fine at 60k miles.