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I agree the vertical dimension is too much in that example, but to me the tablet sticking up out of the dash (especially the base model S650) looks more unimaginative and cheap.

Who said anything about physical gauges? (Although yes they are a still a better aesthetic.) 🙂 The current digital cluster in the 401A package is integrated into the dash without looking like a stuck on iPad. Why not just upgrade the graphics and functionality of that? Mercedes has figured out...

I wouldn't know yet. My point, which wasn't directed at you, is the new dash simply doesn't look good. It's not about any new functionality or features the new screens might offer.

Some can't seem to comprehend the difference between aesthetics and functionality.

Front and rear are both growing on me although I wish the taillights were just a little bigger. The side view with the wide hips is what resembles the Camaro but nothing else does. I think the overall look is more "muscle car" and less "Euro sports car" than the S550. I love the S550 but I'm...

Obviously there are people in that camp, too, but I was only talking about the detractors. I don't think the change resistant and "not enough change" people are the same. It's interesting and different from S550 release because nearly all the S550 critics were change resistant.

I'm not so sure. With the S550 I think there was one crowd that loved the more "modern" look and features from the get go, while the second crowd initially complained it was "too European" and "not a muscle car," etc. With the S650 I think the first crowd is disappointed the Mustang didn't...

Do you find the GR86 lacking in power? If so, what should they do to increase it without a turbo?

Digital dashes were around multiple decades ago? You do get a Coyote V8 with those analog gauges. 🙂 And a digital dash has been available on the Mustang since 2018.

That would be great! Ain't going to happen, though. Can a Civic Type R engine go in an 86? :wink:

I missed that article, but if they are going with a different name they would not reveal it yet. :)

I think the fact they didn't wait for the EV shows Ford's commitment to appeal to younger buyers. Customers with the most love for the Mustang traditions are getting old and are most resistant to EVs. Ford probably views the S650 as the transition generation. I doubt there will be any Shelby...

No more Shelbys. The yet to be released higher performance S650 will be the Dark Cobra. 😄

Or some of us who like our paid off S550s want to see a clearly more desirable car to be motivated to buy it. With no new platform like 2015 (and arguably not as many desirable new features as 2018 had with magneride, 10-speed auto, and active exhaust, etc.), better styling is crucial. 🙂

Lines on the sides might have been inspired by the Explorer. Big deal. The crucial point in mentioning the history of the S550 design is debunking the idea that Ford said, "hey, we already have this cool Fusion. Let's slap the same nose on the new Mustang."

I hope so but we shall see. :) Right now I can't help noticing how much real estate is devoted to the black plastic area below the taillights. 😃 I do get this impression from your pics of the front end, especially the headlights.

Best pics of the front end and headlights I've seen! The nose is definitely growing on me and I agree it's a more "upscale" look. I still think the too big plastic valence/diffuser makes everything above it, including the taillights, look too small. I doubt we can count on the fit and finish of...

I went with a Vapor Blue GT with black accents. I think I prefer a body color decklid panel when the roof and spoiler are black. Cool tool!

I understand the GT500 doesn't have them, either. 🙂

Highly unlikely they would only do a 2-year run. It's already been reported the Mustang will go EV for MY28, so four years for the S650. I suspect the hybrid plans were part of an initial plan for an 8-year run. When that was shortened to four, it no longer made sense to invest in the hybrid...