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  1. 2025 Ford Mustang GTD Spirit of America Special Edition Debuts

    Meanwhile, GM just announced that the 1,064 hp ZR-1 will start at $174,995. The GTD is still an awesome car, though I personally don’t like the red mirror caps on this version.
  2. 2025 Mustang GT and Dark Horse MSRP's see another $1K price increase

    That sure is a far cry from the 122,349 Mustangs they sold in 2015 when the S550 debuted. The Mustang barely outsold the Corvette in 2024. The difference was only 1,069 cars.
  3. Chevy has released C8 ZR1 performance figures

    Car and Driver states that Chevy has announced performance figures for the C8 ZR1: 0-60 in 2.3 seconds, 1/4 mile in 9.6@150 mph. Chevy stated that the times occured on an unprepped drag strip running 93 octane.
  4. S650 with PP for Track Days

    That's nice to know! Do you know if it's for both manual and automatic cars?
  5. 2025 Ordering Options

    It seems like there was another price increase along the way. I just specced a basically fully loaded GT in black, but because the dark headlights are now standard, I thought it would be a bit cheaper since I wouldn't have to add NPP. Nope, it was actually more expensive than the last time I...
  6. Official: Mustang GTD laps Nurburgring in 6:57.685

    I was saying that me pointing out what Ferrari does wasn't relevant, not the times in general. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
  7. Official: Mustang GTD laps Nurburgring in 6:57.685

    Just FYI, Ferrari has their own private track (Fiorano) that they typically test and set times at, so they don't typically send a factory team out to set a Nurburgring lap time. The times that are out there are almost (if not all) non-factory times. Setting an official Ring time is basically...
  8. Official: Mustang GTD laps Nurburgring in 6:57.685

    We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one, and that's fine.
  9. Official: Mustang GTD laps Nurburgring in 6:57.685

    I'm really not; I've never owned a Corvette and I've had multiple Mustangs. If you notice, I already said that what Ford has done with the GTD is a great accomplishment and nobody can take that away from them. But I do think what GM has done with the C8 is huge. They invested heavily and it...
  10. Official: Mustang GTD laps Nurburgring in 6:57.685

    I should've said "other Corvettes" because you can clearly see that the ZR1 shares more with the rest of the Corvette lineup than the GTD does with the Mustang lineup. The ZR1 shares the unibody, complete interior, most of the body panels, brakes, transmission, and most of the engine parts with...
  11. Official: Mustang GTD laps Nurburgring in 6:57.685

    Personally, I would find the ZR1 beating the GTD to be a bigger achievement. The ZR1 will be a standard production car that anyone with the funds for can buy, and it shares a hell of a lot more with the base Stingray than the GTD does with any other Mustang. Not to mention that it'll be half...
  12. Official: Mustang GTD laps Nurburgring in 6:57.685

    I'm not sure anyone is attacking the car. I would wager the vast majority of people on here--who are Mustang enthusiasts--think it's a fantastic car and a great accomplishment. It's great that it's as fast as the near decade old 918 (and on much better tires), but that isn't what people are...
  13. Official: Mustang GTD laps Nurburgring in 6:57.685

    Yep, 100% agree with the Porsches and the GTD prices. I'm really curious to see how they do on the secondary market once they're available. I'm sure they will shoot up initially, but I'm really interested to see where they settle. Many of the large Corvette dealers sell at MSRP, though the...
  14. Mustang GTD documentary coming Dec. 10th

    Maybe at some dealerships. Many of the large Corvette dealers charge MSRP, though you'll be waiting on a long list. Still, at some point in time, anyone with the money will be able to walk into a Chevy dealer and get a ZR1 for MSRP (or less), which is a hell of a lot better than having to apply...
  15. Mustang GTD documentary coming Dec. 10th

    There is no universe in which the ZR1 will be a 350K car.
  16. Official: Mustang GTD laps Nurburgring in 6:57.685

    It's an impressive time and a great accomplishment, but let's be real--it should be for a car that costs 325K BEFORE you add in the track pack (or whatever it's called on the GTD). I think the reason some people aren't as impressed is that the car costs significantly more than a GT3 RS but...
  17. Mustang GTD documentary coming Dec. 10th

    6 minutes and 99 seconds, huh? :)
  18. 2025 Mustang Delivered

    I didn't realize you could get the brake calipers on a GT in Notorious Blue for 2025.
  19. OMG - $550 for two window top covers and a couple of red Chinese filters

    Yeah, I think there’s already a thread pointing this out. They’re nice looking, I suppose, but the price seems extreme.
  20. If I was to sell/trade my 60th anniversary Brittany Blue could I make money on it?

    Have you seen the size of that thing? 26’ is probably correct. It’ll be available in ‘26 as a 26’ long model. 😆





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