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No, the hood is too short, too angled, the ground clearance is too high, and look at the lower bumper. Jem described the lower intakes as being similar to the mach-1, those look nothing like the intakes on the mach-1.

You can also tell the ground clearance, and hood height of whatever that is, is too high to be a mustang. My guess is it's Ford deciding to reverse their decision to offer sedans in other markets, and it's a tweaked version of the fusion, or it's that outback competitor we've been hearing about.

I would actually love something like a mustang mid-engine car or a performance sedan. Don't hate the mach-e as much as most mustang fans, it's a good looking, decent performing hatchback, and it is a hatchback, not an SUV, regardless of what Ford says lol. The idea of a mustang sub-brand doesn't...

Hot take, I like that design, as long as it's for like a hatchback. I noticed how the hood and proportions looked very similar to the next gen Mondeo/fusion. So we could be looking at a fusion which is getting a different front end design for the N. American market. It's not the s650, the hood...

Exactly, the things people are complaining about on the s650 mule also existed with s550 camo. Implying those won't be actual issues with the production s650 design.

Let's just pray that hump is nothing more than camo playing tricks. If the roof actually had that shape, it would look terrible lol.

I don't know man, Ford wants to expand the mustang sub-brand, they're testing c8s, and we know Jim Farley is a performance car fanatic who has a hatred for GM. To me, Ford benchmarking a c8 either signifies they're going to make the normal s650 somewhat comparable in terms of performance. Or...

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Regarding reveal dates, I could see ford teasing or revealing it on April 17 for the mustangs anniversary, or revealing it for the Detroit auto show in September.

Wait a minute, are you showing me two different cars? Because I can't tell the difference. Both have 4 wheels, clearly the same design, how derivative of Ford designers.

Using the chassis and design of the excellent s550 as a starting point.

Rumors of a mid-engine mustang are heating up. Ford's testing c8s, they had a sketch in the background of a presentation that looked like a mid-engine concept, something is happening, at the very least, talks and sketches are happening. Doesn't mean it will make it to production, but it's likely.

While it's cool to see this running around obviously, I find it kinda absurd that some people are complaining about a design that's literally hidden. Every single panel has think camo on it. Wait for the camo to slip off before making judgements.

All new body panels, not a refresh. A refresh would be new front and rear fascias, and maybe a new hood. All the panels on this look new from what little we can see.

Based on what Jem said previously, it sounds like the front end of the s650 will be a mesh of the current mach-1 lower bumper, the mach-e gt grille, and some new elements. So the massive grille on the sculpture won't make an appearance it seems. He said the rest of the sculpture isn't exactly...

Bro, the entire car is covered in thick camo. Maybe reserving judgement for now would be the best approach.

Regarding Jem's comments, they've twisted my brain in a pretzel lol. Because other credible leakers have called the s650 gorgeous, such as ExplorerDude on the blue oval forums. But Jem is basically saying it's meh, not ugly, just underwhelming. But even he admitted he'd only seen parts of the...

I really hope they nail the styling as you mentioned. I don't care about performance a huge amount as long as it's slightly better than the s550, which all signs point to the fact that it will be a better performing s550 essentially. But even if it wasn't better performing, you can always...

Which puts the s650 into a really unique position. I can see it being a massive success, because it's the final sendoff for gas power muscle cars. As such, it has the potential to become one of the most iconic cars in recent history if executed well. However, I could also see it damaging ford's...