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You’ll have the last laugh if Ford can’t sell the things and the nameplate fizzles up in the future. Until then, Ford has made it real. That last line is all I needed to read. Fair play, I’m out of this conversation.

They’re expanding the brand of the Mustang. In other words, the brand has evolved. The best you can do is vote with your wallet or tell other people not to call it a Mustang, but it doesn’t change the reality that brands. Change. Period.

… brands evolve. That isn’t some secret practice exclusive from the US lol. BMW literally has X5 Ms and X6 Ms FYI.

So being “gullible” is accepting the reality of a registered nameplate from an organization. Yeah, totally fits the definition that I didn’t even ask for when I was looking for an explanation of how that word fits the context. Guess you lost me there. Being “woke” is slang for trying to be edgy...

The examples are essentially analogous which is the point. Brands evolve. Refuting the Mach-E is like trying to deny reality. Is anyone actually happy that there’s a 4500lb SUV that has nothing to do with manuals and V8s? Maybe that weird handful of techies in the silicon region, but mostly...

You could make the same case for many brands. Ferrari said they would never make an SUV. Porsche said the same thing. BMW's M GmbH said they would never dilute the M brand nor make M SUVs. Now the M badge is on everything and they make 5000lb+ hulking monsters. Welcome to the 21st century...

Simply trying to make sense of the word when it isn't even being used in the right context :) In case my sarcastic use of the word wasn't comprehendible for anyone, "woke" would be pretending to own and dictate the rights of a nameplate. You can think as hard as you want, be as vocal as you'd...

So it's gullible because we're not woke, jaded, cynical, and gatekeeping-enough to refuse the reality of a brand registering a chassis to a nameplate that they own? Next thing you guys are going to say is that we're gullible for thinking the Earth is round.

>Gullible Explain :)

But this does 🤌

Can’t stand pedestal wings on the S550 or S650 personally except for the GT350 R’s. Didn’t like them on the facelifted MY18+ S550s and the extra angular one on the S650 bugs me even more. Imo these look best bare or with a ducktail “swing” like the MY19-20 GT350/Mach 1/GT500 Handling Package...

According to what data? As far as I'm concerned, the nameplate was a genius marketing move for Ford's business. By saying "it's going to bite them in the ass," are you saying that they're suffering from success? Ford:

HOT

I genuinely don’t think so lol but agree to disagree

Hot take, big if true

And their CAFE targets will only get more strict. On top of that, when major markets like California and NY choose to ban ICE vehicles, you know that OEMs will scrap any notion of wasting R&D on that front. Will the Mustang go away when the FE/RWD/2+2 ICE combo is no longer a logistical...

Man’s been employed by major car mags for nearly 20 years. I can promise you that he’s not concerned about criticizing a motor company 😂

Dude, I wish that made production.

It’s an unfortunate constant of any car forum I’ve ever been on. Like a Commandment, thou shalt have at least five toxic trolls stemming from ownership of thine vehicle’s predecessor at any given time. On that same note, forum post counts would be cut in half if this shit didn’t exist lol.