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  1. Carl Widmann, former Mustang chief engineer, hints at the future of the coyote

    They could but why invest in a smaller V8 if you already have a 3.5/3.6L engine?! The M177 engine (4.0L AMG engine) is pretty neat but if the F150 doesn't get it the Mustang doesn't get it either... They might discontinue the coyote and replace it with a 4.0 turbo engine in the future but we...
  2. Rumor: S650 Mustang 4-Door Sedan Will Debut in 2022 with 3 Engine Options

    Interesting questions and the most compelling answer to most of them is simply CD6. However, you told us that S650 will be built on the old platform with major improvements (I hope that doesn’t sound judgmental, it’s not meant that way). Let’s try a shot into the dark: Derivatives could...
  3. Predictions for S650 Shelby

    I respect your opinion but if I wanted a 6 cylinder turbo car I would by a M3/4. What’s the point of another 6 cylinder turbo car if one could have a NA V8 instead? Besides, your mentioned trim levels are way over the top. I prefer the Mustang as a recognizable car. If I see a Mustang I expect...
  4. Predictions for S650 Shelby

    First off, it wasn’t or isn’t my purpose to offend anybody in this forum. English isn’t my native language. Besides, I can't do multiquote or whatever you did in order to refer to statements. It helps readability a lot but the only way I know off is to type in [Q UO TE] and stuff by hard...
  5. Predictions for S650 Shelby

    I bet that the S650 will have manual options. TheS650 isn't an all new Mustang "just" an evolution of the current gen. Why not keeping the manual if it sells well and has a market? S750 will be a different talk but that's roughly 8 years from now... Ford doesn't have such a car. They have a...
  6. What Should Come Standard Across All Mustangs Going Forward?

    360 camera Head-Up (optional) Tremec for the regular GT (optional) Quad-exhaust active valves /exhaust new steering wheel (flattened, better materials and round drive mode buttons etc (AMG-style) and of couse optional to keep the base price low) AWD (optional) hard top and speedster option for...
  7. Predictions for S650 Shelby

    Nice specs but at $100K you might as well consider buying a used 911 GT3... It's a Porsche, it revs up to 9000rpm and is the better track/race car... I like the GT350 and the GT350R but at a hundred grad it’s just well overpriced. The 2016 GT350 did start at 49995$ and the R at 63495$. A 2020...
  8. V8, V8 Hybrid, All Electric, which mustang will be the most desirable?

    Unfortunately not. The only thing we have is a patent from 2017 or something and since then a lot of stuff has happened over at FORD
 At this point it’s almost doubtful that there will be a hybrid V8. The Mustang itself doesn’t really sell all that many units to justify high research costs...
  9. S650 Mustang render based on sculptural concept

    That was the best I could do in paint so hats off to you :D Besides, this looks:thumbsup: legit
  10. Rendering: This is how 2023 Mustang 7th gen should look like

    These new spyshots from the Fusion/Mondeo successor look almost exactly like the EVOS... The front-end styling is almost identical to the EVOS and it's in line with the sculpture. Besides, it has the same headlights and I assume the Mustang will get similar ones, which could end up quite nice...
  11. Get a Shelby NOW? or Wait for the S650 ? ? ? ?

    I think in terms of marketing FORD is checking a lot of the right boxes wheather we like it or not. Building a strong name pays off in the long run. The new Bronco Warthog will be renamed to Raptor. If you want to compete in the world market you need strong brands customers can recognize and...
  12. S650 Mustang render based on sculptural concept

    Fit's the sculpute almost perfectly. Looks good but I also doubt that that would make production... Besides, to me it looks more like a Lamborghini... Quite exotic and less like a muscle car. Can't wait any longer for the first S650 spyshot
  13. Carl Widmann, former Mustang chief engineer, hints at the future of the coyote

    Die Hoffnung stirbt zuletzt! The first S650 will hit Europe in 2023 the earliest. With further delays the S650 might enter Europe as a ’24 model and by then I doubt a V8 hybrid will be an option. Up until now FORD does not offer such an engine so the Mustang would have to carry all the...
  14. Carl Widmann, former Mustang chief engineer, hints at the future of the coyote

    https://www.autoweek.com/news/sports-cars/a36353066/mustang-v8-is-safe-for-now/ Autoweek talked to Carl Widmann who's a Ford Performance chief program engineer. Widmann thinks that gas engines haven't met their day yet and that there are still a lot of people buying gas engines. He's referring...
  15. Will there be a S650 Supercharged V8 Mustang from the factory?

    If they knew they probably wouldn't tell ;) I sincerely disagree. It is almost granted that there will be performance-variants of the S650 and my guess would be that Ford tries to build into the Mustang brand. Meaning there will be a GT350 around the launch and a GT500 down the road. There...
  16. Hoping for the DCT in the New S650 Mustang

    It's funny how a DCT is considered a "cheap" transmission here in Europe. "Converter automatic" has been the go to trans for premium brands like BMW and Mercedes and rightfully so. A DCT might be a bit faster but that will be overcome sooner rather than later. The ZF 8hp in my BMW is just...
  17. Hmmm... so what IS the major diff between the S550 and S650?

    I've also not just seen the headlamps but the whole car, facelift included. But I can't tell anyone how it looked like because of reasons :giggle: sry but I couldn't resist :D
  18. S650 mule spotted..........with all wheel drive?

    Does it affect a ‘23 model at all? If production starts in late ’22 then there might be no need to delay the S650. Ford could prioritize high margin S650 versions like most of the electric-car-companies do. Sell the “best” product first and release the lower margin products later on. However, a...
  19. Hmmm... so what IS the major diff between the S550 and S650?

    If they don't come up with some lightweight improvements then I don't see a chance that the S650 will be lighter or even keep the current weight. The S550 is a 60k$ car, at least in Europe, and it doesn’t even have front parking sensors, head-up displays (especially cables are quite heavy if...
  20. I'm hoping for Major Interior Upgrades/Updates -------------

    I agree with most of your proposals. 1. Improve the overall quality of the used materials 2. Next gen digital dash AND a proper Head-up display (optional) 3. High quality steering wheel like the black one amg uses (including the round buttons at the bottom that can startup the engine, switch...





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