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  1. First Video! S650 Mustang GT prototype looks & sounds in motion

    Compared to old cars that is a reasonable time. Compared to modern cars that's slow and I'm not talking EV's... According to https://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle-make/bmw-0-60-mph-times/ A GT with PP2 does 0-60 in about 4.2 seconds, a Bullit in 4.3 or 4.4 seconds. That is a 2+2 seater with...
  2. First Video! S650 Mustang GT prototype looks & sounds in motion

    You are right and I think that Ford did a reasonable job on updating D2C but I do think that it feels old. Yes, it drives well but apart from that everything else feels outdated. 0-60 is ridiculously slow for a 450hp car, it is quite heavy and they couldn’t even find a way to install both, lane...
  3. First Video! S650 Mustang GT prototype looks & sounds in motion

    I don't think you guys understand how a platform works... CD6 would’ve been an amazing platform as it would have enabled a lot of features to be added. Just because an SUV is built on a platform doesn’t mean a performance car cannot be built on it… Platforms these days a modular an can handle a...
  4. First Video! S650 Mustang GT prototype looks & sounds in motion

    Not based on CD6 at all according to @amk91 ... You can read several threads where that information is shared. The S650 should have been a CD6 car but James Hackett canceled the whole program. S650 should have been a whole new car with a whole new platform (CD6) but thanks to Hackett S650 will...
  5. 2024 Mustang EcoBoost (S650) First Sighting!

    Every modern infotainment system has something that is called "night mode" or so. It's like the dark mode on Android and it works quite well. Reduced brightness and dark colours. Good visibility at night but not too bright to get flashed ;)
  6. 2024 Mustang EcoBoost (S650) First Sighting!

    One can’t see much on this one but I wouldn’t be surprised if the S650 would have some sort of ā€œFord Evosā€ dashboard with it’s 12.3 + 27-inch screen or something like that… In the Evos the screens are much better integrated into the dash than in the new BMW i4/M3 Touring or the next LCI. One...
  7. 2024 Mustang EcoBoost (S650) First Sighting!

    These side mirrors won't make into the EU market... I hope that that's the only thing that needs to be changed but I doubt it... It looks almost exactly like a S550 regarding the silhouette... However, the headlights are new... I suppose that they're finally going all in on LEDs ;)
  8. Good news for Mustang via Jim Farley: ICE business will focus around Bronco & Mustang

    But then again how many people track their car regularly? People who buy Mustangs in the EU are primarily interested in cruising around. Nobody cares about drag races here and tracking a standard Mustang GT isn’t a good thing either. Maybe with PP2 but there are still better options on the...
  9. Good news for Mustang via Jim Farley: ICE business will focus around Bronco & Mustang

    I don't think that Ford can sell a 500hp car without electrification in the EU in 2023 onwards. They already told us that every car sold will be either a hybrid or a full EV comes 2026. Unfortunately I have a feeling that the ā€œnext gen Coyoteā€ will only be a mild refresh version with <500hp –...
  10. Good news for Mustang via Jim Farley: ICE business will focus around Bronco & Mustang

    I'm pretty sure that sound generators or even massive speakers will be built on the outside of cars in order to generate emotions especially for bystanders. It will not satisfy any purists but the average Joe will be convinced. There are already concept cars that have speakers at the rear apron...
  11. First Look: S650 Mustang Prototype Spied With Production Body! šŸ“ø

    I don't see the point in this... The fun in shifting is not based purely on pulling and pushing a stick... I like pushing the clutch and I would miss it. Might as well buy an AT then... I have pedal shifters on my steering wheel... It's just a 'nice to have' feature and nowhere near a proper MT...
  12. First Look: S650 Mustang Prototype Spied With Production Body! šŸ“ø

    I think I saw it on Ford Authority a couple of days ago.
  13. First Look: S650 Mustang Prototype Spied With Production Body! šŸ“ø

    Well, it's supposed to be an EV - hence no need to cool the engine... A NA V8 can't look like that unless Ford finds another creative way for air to enter the intercooler... The tail just looks awful… like a friendly neighborhood sedan… I’ll bet that the S650 will look more aggressive...
  14. To Our Mods

    Honestly, I wasn't sure if it was just me but I'm glad he's gone. "A real charmer" indeed šŸ˜‰ This "Thank you" cannot be emphasized enough.
  15. They HAVE to ditch the MT-82 this time around, right?

    If that would be the case the S650 would be almost DOA. That Mach 1 has to be the bar. If they aim for anything lower than that they can keep it. In other words: a S650 with mild improvements wouldn't be worth calling S650. I"m extremely curious what the S650 will be like but on the same
  16. With the s650 GT being an AWD hybrid v8 - would it still be considered a muscle car?

    You DO WANT AWD you just haven't had a car with proper AWD. Look at the BMW G80 M3... The xdrive M3 combines both, AWD AND RWD. One can easily switch between them by pushing a single button. Yes, the entire system is slightly heavier ~50kg but we're talking about an already heavy cars so...
  17. 2024 Mustang GT S650 Prototype First SPY Sighting! šŸ‘€

    Hawkeye ACE ;) I'm not even mad, that's amazing :D They can't have that many preassure if they can wrap an old S550... However, they might have actually wrapped an EU S550... Was wondering why else they would test a S650 with EU specs that doesn't need any testing...
  18. 2024 Mustang GT S650 Prototype First SPY Sighting! šŸ‘€

    Wow, lovely pics :D Much more like real spy shots than the first ones ;) I have three things that I take away at first glance: The exhaust system or more precise the space that is provided for the final exhaust is way too big for just a two tip system. Ć  Looks like they’re keeping the...
  19. What Should Come Standard Across All Mustangs Going Forward?

    That’s not the case in Europe and probably not in other parts of the world where the Mustang isn’t an affordable car. Base price in Europe starts around 50k€ ~ $60k so most people that can afford a Mustang are naturally slightly older. In addition, those customers aren’t interested in pure...
  20. What Should Come Standard Across All Mustangs Going Forward?

    Our German brands do that all the time with dire consequences: your basic trim has nothing on it accept wheels and an engine and they charge you for literally every option. An example: a base m440i sets you back ~57000$. However, if you check some boxes one can easily get well into +$73000...





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