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yup 1SS/1LE was an outright steal back in 2019 and still non-too shabby on price even today. The regular ZL1 is a delight, power everywhere but on the other hand it doesn't make you work the car like the NA option does. I prefer the latter.

rather unlikely. Ford's motto is do as little dev work as they can get away with.

if only they'd sell one without the supercharger... It makes no sense to can the Camaro and only produce the $$$ Caddys on the exact same line. Lest I sound like some of the DH desperados around here, I'm going to bet the Camaro will get re-launched as the CT5V with current corvette stingray NA...

blood oath or nuthin'

And when the finance division blows up it can take the entire company with it. As has happened several times previously. Vendor lending is typically the loosest and most irresponsible lending option out there. Eg. Ford just put all Mustangs at 0/60 whereas any other lender with a modicum of...

3-6 weeks after they are built. :)

@RTR Vehicles any chance you could design panels to box the rad(s)? Incorporating vanes and box slats into the upper and lower bumper insert/grill would seem to be an ideal opportunity. Ignoring cosmetic patterns, it's not like we remotely want, let alone can handle the amount of air an 'open'...

relax already. I was simply riff'ing on the "suggestion" aspect and wasn't arguing any of your other perfectly valid points. When someone replies to a post it's not always to argue some counter-factual.

and yet the 'invoice" isn't exactly a suggestion between Ford and the dealer. The ENTIRE auto sales process is a scam of hidden kickbacks and un-truths on pricing. Why would they play word games with 'invoice' by embedding hold-back into it? The invoice in every other industry is the bloody...

I've been telling Jason they are going to regret doing an about-face on the Mustangs. Nothing worse than an Internet community scorned... I've pitched them several ideas to have their rep (sell 10-12 units at MSRP to "lucky" forum members) and eat their ADM-cake too on the rest of the...

aucontrair, you "Get a New CAR !!" (said in your best Price is Right voice) heh, and it's even a Mustang. and for good measure

same scratch gets you into a Blackwing.

put that sh*t on California cars, and let their engines expire early.

NO and Ford Legal will get ugly with them.

95% of the world haggles on the price of a cucumber and a liter of milk. It is only USA/UK and other "1st world, mostly north European" where everybody has been programmed like sheep to accept the posted price. I don't know the origins of why car buying became one of the "only" haggle...

AXZD plan are strictly defined by a formula. X plan at the scummiest dealer is the same as the most angelic one in the USA/Canada. It is a FIXED price relative to Invoice and you can look it up if you have a code/PIN. Part of the program RULES is that doc fees are capped to a fixed 99 and so...

for SHARE HOLDERS. Please be more careful about posting incomplete half-truths. Mustang Club of America https://mustang.org/member-services/x-plan/ Corporate 'affiliate' program partipants also have X-plan. I get 2 PIN/yr, not 4. https://www.partnerrecognition.com/ Vehicle Programs - Vehicles...

right, that's a HUGE factor!! The rules and discounts for AZX back then were VERY VERY different and more generous than today.

https://fordauthority.com/2023/03/ford-dealers-could-get-penalized-for-selling-to-flippers/ Oh sure, penalize private persons who flip their cars but do nothing about ADM. Fine, I'll buy for MSRP and then split the 'flip' to the dealer as long as the 2nd sale is to out of state. Or you run a...

that's 9% off MSRP or 4.5 below invoice. what year was this?