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  1. What ever happened to the Ford "cracking down on" ADMs?

    well, the agreed price was 2% below, but if they took X-plan the numbers looked better on their books. Even though they had to give me 150% of the difference ($400 -> 600) to finalize the deal. The $600 was reflected in a different color of money so accounting/GM wouldn't bitch about the...
  2. What ever happened to the Ford "cracking down on" ADMs?

    My X-plan purchase from Ourisman last year doesn't show 2 below invoice. Unless you count the "deal cash" they added in parts/labor credits to get back to 2 below. Can you post your deal sheet?
  3. S650 vs S550 real life side by side comparison look (rear view)

    Koons Sterling Ford (the other "heavy" in Mustang-land here in NoVA) has a Model-T in their service driveway. I guess this means I need to have them position a S650 next to it so I can take a side-by-side and you all can dissect the similarities and differences.
  4. What ever happened to the Ford "cracking down on" ADMs?

    Huh, let's see I'll start the bidding at $200? I can use my pin for 4 cars/yr I think? :)
  5. What ever happened to the Ford "cracking down on" ADMs?

    if Ford A-Plan, Z-Plan, X-Plan, D-Plan Pricing: How It's Calculated and What You Need to Know - CarsDirect can be believed it's probably around 3% below invoice at recent Mustang pricing ($33,000 and up) But might not apply to DH/Mach1 etc. If the build+price was up, you could log into Ford...
  6. What ever happened to the Ford "cracking down on" ADMs?

    The fed should just come out and say "we're going to turn it up to 11, literally and figuratively. Your house values will be halved (at least) for the good of the whole country. All mortgage loans will be re-issued on that basis."
  7. Latest 2024 Mustang Order Guide and Price List (w/ MSRP & Invoice)!

    Yup, Jason said he may need to start drinking at 10am instead of the usual 3pm. PS. I don't know if Jason drinks...
  8. Dark Horse vs Mach 1 - faster, heavier?

    won't be a mouthful of spit of difference between them, once you control for tires and omit the carbon wheels. The "15 HP" is just marketing or at best only realized on an engine dyno under scrupulously controlled conditions. IOW nonsense to buy a DH over a M1 unless you like the styling and...
  9. What ever happened to the Ford "cracking down on" ADMs?

    it was a 10 second soundbite over a 15 minute shit-storm on TikTok/IG. You were supposed to be mollified by the stern countenance of the CEO and his words. See, problem solved. No go bury your nose in your personal tracking dis-information device and and let naked greed run the table. At least...
  10. Where To Order Below MSRP/Invoice - X Plan Pricing?

    Manassas VA. Fly into Dulles (IAD) If you plot your course properly you won't drive a straight road till you exit the Ozarks.
  11. Latest 2024 Mustang Order Guide and Price List (w/ MSRP & Invoice)!

    correct. It was a CAFE move. I can't get over how much FUN it is to drive a '17 even with 3.55 gears vs the '19 with 3.73.
  12. Latest 2024 Mustang Order Guide and Price List (w/ MSRP & Invoice)!

    Radical Systems Destroyer Runaway Skipjack Delivery Roland Sands Design Right Side Drive Roadside Delivery Rubber Side Down Remote Shut Down Risk-Specific Dose Race Stunt Deathmatch Radar Storm Detection Remote Storage Device the answer will make itself known. Use the Force, Luke.
  13. Latest 2024 Mustang Order Guide and Price List (w/ MSRP & Invoice)!

    no surveillance tech, no glass instruments, but has "track-ready" coolers and TR3160 instead of MT82. All for potentially less money to boot. More so if you factor in loan rates.
  14. Latest 2024 Mustang Order Guide and Price List (w/ MSRP & Invoice)!

    yes, I know. I was suggesting just put all hte logic in excel.
  15. Where To Order Below MSRP/Invoice - X Plan Pricing?

    "no". I asked again this morning to clarify their stance and proposed a few different strategies. The executives have visions of ADM dancing in their heads, but I've been making the case that they could trivially match Granger's MSRP for 9-15 units and then go wild on the rest. Ditto EB/GT do...
  16. Latest 2024 Mustang Order Guide and Price List (w/ MSRP & Invoice)!

    but of course! They just need a spare with a Nissan part number stamped on it. I guess Ford figures since you're screwed if you have a PP (not-rotatable wheels) you're rich enough to just whip out the CC and cell phone and require a tow truck to get repaired rather than continue your journey...
  17. Latest 2024 Mustang Order Guide and Price List (w/ MSRP & Invoice)!

    the point was "do that in the other threads that already exist for "whinging""
  18. Ford's Marketing Team at it Again

    man, what am I doing wrong? Devops, 30 years experience and only 140-160 in DC no less.
  19. Latest 2024 Mustang Order Guide and Price List (w/ MSRP & Invoice)!

    X-plan == INvoice + like $150 and limits dealer fees to $99. 2% below invoice + full dealer fee SHOULD be lower by about $500 but do the math. X-plan only makes sense if you have a d*ck dealer who wants to only sell at MSRP.





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