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UPDATE: Sorry, I was not searching for it properly or something. SVE does make the 10.5 forged wheel in Graphite, and they sell it in a package with the Michelins. https://lmr.com/item/WTK-444913DLFJ/sve-mustang-dhp1-forged-wheel-michelin-kit-graphite-2024

Well, the price reflects what you are getting. If you want a forged wheel and a quality tire, then even from the same company (SVE), the package will be significantly more expensive. Take a lookout the forged Dark Horse look alike and Michelin Pilot Sport 4S...

This next guy got 1000 horsepower from adding headers.

They give some comparisons to their own flow formed wheel design at about 10 minutes in (video).

Yeah, I posted that in another thread. (A) That one is not tuned, and (B) I was curious if anybody here is doing it. EDIT - It was not "another thread." I posted it on page 1, as post #5. :crackup:

I hesitated to make a recommendation, because I am not an expert in this field. If I were buying today, the only two I would consider are the Apex VS-5RS or the Apex SM-10RS, although I wish I could get them in the exact same color as my current Dark Horse wheels. I did not want to mislead...

Nobody here installed headers and a tune? It is Whipple or nothing?

Now you have me wondering whether your experience was just temperature, rather than the tires being all done. Ah, never mind, I see you said they were not sticking at high 80's. Odd, because I am over 6000 miles, and mine still stick in warmer weather. All sticky. But at 52° - forget it...

It's not divisive - your money, your wheels, your car. :like: And objectively lighter is better, and forged are going to be lighter and better. How much better and how expensive are the only questions.

Here, check out other threads on the topic. https://www.mustang7g.com/forums/threads/headers-and-tuning-2-questions.170547/ and https://www.mustang7g.com/forums/threads/pbd-tuning-a10.171654/ and https://www.mustang7g.com/forums/threads/cai-tune-gains.171117/ just as a few examples.

Tuning was unlocked on the S650 in August. You can have your car tuned for whatever changes you make and change other things with the tune, as well, like transmission shifting, getting rid of the top speed limiter, raising the rpm shift points, etc.

I do not have a dog in the fight, other than posting the results, but I cannot possibly know whether he or you did something different that makes the inconsistency resolvable. Nevertheless, there are acceleration tests and lap times posted above, too, all of which consistently show the same...

LOL, it has been cold in Georgia, in the 50s, and damp. I bought my car in June, and have been amazed at how well these Trofeo RS tires perform (as long as it does not rain), but, well, it's Georgia, and June through September is hot. When it is 52° outside and damp air, and you throw on your...

Well, he was asking about doing headers first and maybe a Whipple down the road. GT Thunder, There are some gains to be made with headers and a tune, so your car will be faster and feel faster and be fun to drive. Your mechanic is correct about the 2" headers. There are also some fit issues...

But it does make a difference. It has been measured objectively, both on a circuit track and in acceleration, with cites provided above. The difference between how a 1964 Mustang would perform lapping a race track circuit compared to a new Dark Horse with the handling package is made up of...

0-60 times and 40-100 times with a more powerful car than a Miata

Wiley, whom you cited above, and others, are talking about flow formed. I just wanted to make sure we all knew what we were discussing. I would venture a guess that flow formed sell lots more wheels than forged, just due to cost. Apex, which you mentioned, sells both. The cost difference is...

On the kart track, we tested the heavy Masitaly wheels first, then the lightweight Volks. Then we retested the heavy wheels to correct for any changes in weather, track conditions, and the driver becoming accustomed to the course. This test showed clear differences both on the kart track and at...