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The coyote was originally only supposed to have a 10 year life span if ya didn’t know. Useless info but yeah the development story back in 2010 was wild

The dark horse is what the mach 1 should of been and the dark horse really should of gotten an gen 4 with 5.2 displacement, the only difference is the stroke, and the piston speed at 7500 vs the current 5.0 stroke is minimal. Point being a gen 4 based 5.2 with 530hp would of been cool af

I’m sorry it’s not maybe 200 pounds at maximum but that’s worse case scenario, most of these cars will end up in the 38-4000 pounds range

It’s 3900 pounds without a full tank or driver i don’t think it’s 300 pounds more but that’s a 4200 pound car. I doubt it’ll be any faster than a mach 1 in a straight line I really like the dark horse but damn it needs to be a tad cheaper “msrp is dumb” and it needed another 15-20hp IMO

FYI we don’t know official peak numbers for the dark horse, it could be the same as the GT at 7150-7250rpm, it could be lower at 7000rpm or way out at 7500rpm. Ford hasn’t realized the dirty details which is very suspicious This is a simulated dark horse vs mustang gt with active exhaust, the...

That’s what i can’t figure out is the Dark horse a mustang gt with another 14-20hp across the whole rpm range, like the mach 1s dyno at or is this like the boss 302 where its all top end and down low, the tq curve is just flatter. The dark horse is starting to sound like a wet noddle of if it...

I agree I’m the one that made the simulated engines last month you can find my posts. Also, this wouldn’t be the first time in OEM has done this btw Porsche did this with the 911 R that was the one that had the brand new manual transmission, they didn’t trust the flywheel or clutch to handle...

We won’t know definitively till you get your owners manual, but two of the reviews said the engineers told premium what we required wink wink. My guess it will be a lot like the GT350, it’ll run but it won’t like it on regular where the run of the mill coyote for the most part doesn’t care

Yes Carlos Lagos confirmed it

Actually it is true but we don’t know what kinda protection ford built into the dark horse. On the Mustang gt it would just pull timing and de rate on the Gt350s, GT500s the car would basically go into a limp mode and would run like crap. For whatever reason Ford, doesn’t want to say required...

And what’s your point just because it can doesn’t mean you should this isn’t 1992 lol

The 10r80s we will be per usual significantly faster because of gearing all those gears so short and close together mean you would have to use no lift shift and potentially have 4.09 gears and still I’d bet on the 10r80 being faster. It’s not really about shift times anymore because autos have...

From a roll it’ll be maybe 1 car difference at the strip maybe 2/10s lol

1) anyone who runs regular shouldn’t of gotten a mustang lol just my opinion don’t be cheap 2) yes and no, they work great if you’re doing an all out N/A build but it’s a lot of money for 25-40whp depending on the cams Also i want to note that running regular will make the car very sluggish...

I wanted to have an open discussion over all the reviews and what new info has come across between the mustang gt & dark horse gen 4 coyotes. 1) redline on the dark horse with the tremec is 7250rpm, this is really really odd because peak power is 7250. I’m really curious as to why this was done...

Here is what we know the dark horse has different cams which ones and the differences are up for debate. But the dark horse requires premium fuel and that makes a huge difference because they don’t have to nerf the stock tune anywhere near the degree when they have to worry about someone...

And that’s exactly the issue with the dark horse long term will be. It’s a hard sell at its current price but if you get one on sale or its base. It’s a great car

Savage geese does the best as they always do

It’ll be interesting if people can’t actually feel a major difference vs gt power wise thus far most of the reviews haven’t been overwhelmed with the new gen 4. I don’t mean that in a bad way but they’re going holy crap like they did when the gen 3s came out

The really interesting thing I’ve seen from most of these reviews are 1) a lot of the people really can’t tell the added 20hp over last gen, this tells me either it’ll be a peaky engine up top thing boss 302 vs a regular coyote 2) that everyone has talked about how flat the torque curve is vs...