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  1. How long before Ford Performance will offer a powerkit for the GT for this car?

    That’s something i could never figure out why FRPP didn’t use flex fuel in any way for there tunes. It much be an emissions related reason or they don’t want to have warranty related issues from grandpa not being on the car when you run corn which btw you really have to do
  2. 4th Gen Coyote (5.0L Ti-VCT) S650 V8 Engine Technical Info / Specs

    Never take that crap seriously the amount of times ford screwed up on documents would surprise you. I remember when the gt350 was coming out and one of the ford engineers screwed up the actual presentation, and told people there was a time limit aka over rev feature from 7500-8250, aka you could...
  3. New DH or 2020 GT 350?

    That gt350 are unreliable, yeah that’s true lmfao I’ve driven 4 of them hard in racing. 2 of them needed engines “oil consumption and unknown on the 2nd since ford wouldn’t open it” the other 2 are still running around. Both had odd ball nvh issues at different rpm’s I like the gt350s but to...
  4. New DH or 2020 GT 350?

    As far as design, parts and what it actually is. You bet it was as low effort as you can get and they had the balls to say it was a gt350 successor. Lmfao
  5. New DH or 2020 GT 350?

    Gen 2 gt350s are fairly reliable and don’t have a bunch of nvh issues like the early cars. Having said that they’ll still suffer from the fact the firing order is wack and they love to rattle/shake. But on a whole the later cars are great The dark horse is the real what if because if it’s...
  6. Is anyone else disappointed with the GT Performance Pack??

    I wouldn’t say the performance pack is disappointing as much as it needs to be more or at the very least bring back the PP2. Ford really needs to crank up both the dark horse and PP1 packages in my opinion. They’re not bad but it’s more of why not take it further. The PP1 has basically been the...
  7. Normal or Premium Gas

    If you can’t afford 91/93 octane then don’t have the car that’s my opinion don’t be cheap. The dark horse requires premium anyways
  8. 4th Gen Coyote (5.0L Ti-VCT) S650 V8 Engine Technical Info / Specs

    Here is a gen 2 coyote on an engine stand stock intake manifold with charge motion plates active vs a gt350 intake without them active
  9. 4th Gen Coyote (5.0L Ti-VCT) S650 V8 Engine Technical Info / Specs

    That’s exactly it, they increase velocity into the cylinder head. Which increases pressure which makes more tq/power. It’s not a lot but it’s helps. On the coyotes 2015 and up they have them from the factory. It’s worth a good 15-25tq under 4500 rpm. It’s worth it With the new twin throttle...
  10. 4th Gen Coyote (5.0L Ti-VCT) S650 V8 Engine Technical Info / Specs

    Originally they were basically tiny throttle bodies that oems would throw inside the intake close to the cylinder track. The 4.6 3 valves for reference use them, but even with them open it was a major intake restriction. It was a really common mod back then to delete them and gain 10whp...
  11. 4th Gen Coyote (5.0L Ti-VCT) S650 V8 Engine Technical Info / Specs

    No doesn’t work like that running a lean AFR creates NOX and high cylinder temps, which results in bad emissions. This is why you’re seeing egrs on gas turbo engines now. NOX emissions for gas engines have gotten considerably stricter. You can only get so much out of air and a fuel mixture.
  12. 4th Gen Coyote (5.0L Ti-VCT) S650 V8 Engine Technical Info / Specs

    Charge motion plates are only good at low rpm’s and don’t have the ability to vary themselves like a traditional throttle body. Ford is using these twin throttle bodies in a way that allows them to have there cake and eat it too. The LT6 in the z06 has a similar idea with the 3 little throttle...
  13. 4th Gen Coyote (5.0L Ti-VCT) S650 V8 Engine Technical Info / Specs

    Nope reading is hard They do that to keep manifold pressure high, when you do this you flatten out the torque curve. This is why a lot of modern day turbo engines won’t let you go WOT in the middle of the rpm range they wanna make it as flat as possible. All ford is doing is the same but...
  14. Gen 4 coyote power curve simulated

    That’s a moot point because you can do that now with real dyno sheets lol i can make them but pushrod engines have very boring dyno charts
  15. 4th Gen Coyote (5.0L Ti-VCT) S650 V8 Engine Technical Info / Specs

    You must be new around here 1) the mustang gt has had forged rods since 2015 and that remains the same with the s650 but on the dark horse they’re a better gt500 rods 2) they’re not running these engines rich at all they’re lean to the high heavens, also what does two throttle have to do with...
  16. Guess the Dark Horse owners kit

    Probably be a set of model camshafts and a dark horse keychain with a box
  17. How long before Ford Performance will offer a powerkit for the GT for this car?

    That’s really there only selling point lol let’s cut the crap
  18. Is the DH worth it?

    If you have a mach 1 or bullitt it’s really not worth the upgrade. The big issue with the dark horse is its long term potential vs value. My guess is it’ll end up like the boss 302s, and be significantly outdone by whatever next high trim model comes out. Probably something with a flat plane...





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