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Gain a lot of customers hasn't really been the case. Way underperforming compared to S550 launch. I think lost exceeds gains at this point based on sales. They really lost S550 owners who might have upgraded had they made other choices. The Gen Z/young millennial crowd that bamboozled them into...

No orange? Continued fail.

Comp Orange and Code Orange seemed pretty close...I had a 16 Comp Orange GT before my Mach 1. No orange available is a hard fail IMHO.

I have been part of these discussions when they were Mach 1 vs. GT350. We have a lot of passions for these cars, but I have always thought the Shelby worship was a bit over the top. My discussion with the Mustang Brand Manager at the Barber 60th pretty much led me to believe Ford will not...

black deck lid shows how awful that body color one is...hopefully that is one thing that makes it to a refresh

This is why I begrudgingly hope Speed Phenom gets one. He can be a bit annoying but that guy does actually track the cars he gets. His GT500/Z06/C8 performance coverage was solid. I'd take him over Stangmode or some of the others all day.

What are the events for the DH school? Just curious how they compare to the Mach 1/GT 500 School. The Mach 1 did the drift car, acceleration/braking runs, figure 8, and then the track/roval sessions. The GT500 added an additional drag strip portion I believe. I thought maybe DH would add a...

I see the full defense of union workers who got ridiculous raises despite this still going on since 2015 is in full effect. I am sorry but there is no excuse for this kind of stuff. I had so many issues on my 2016 of the fit/finish variety. These were issues that would never have passed a QC...

I am in full agreement with the MT review and summary on the first post. S650 was a miss-externally and internally. They messed up the digital evolution too. PDR? Nope. Heads up? Nope. Tesla screens where I can spin a picture of a Mustang? Yep! And reviewers still say it is slow and glitchy!

Based on the small group discussion we had with the brand manager at Barber's, I am still convinced there will be no mustang in S650 wearing Shelby coming out of Ford directly like the GT350 or 500. I think this will wear either Cobra or a DH variant such as DH 500 or something along those...

One of the best summaries of S650 I have read. It is ok. The interior/tech refinements I was hoping for were actual improvements like a PDR, heads up display...not tacked on screens with a spinny Unreal mustang...hooray? Lol at people who seem to think they got refinement on par with a BMW...

year over year being down is the real story-especially when the S550 this time last year was on its down slope too...loan rates suck but let's face it...S650 is not a hit. IMHO an interior redo is needed and soon. That is the only way I would consider one...with a hefty discount too.

Saw this today. I had a Lot of the same questions as others but this will probably do well...cost is high but having it off the dealer floor and financed with the car will help sell it. I imagine factory extended warranties will include this as well with the car if the film is on par with Xpel...

I made a similar decision to skip the HP on the Mach 1 as I would hit that lower splitter quite frequently-I also didn't want Cup 2s and when I bought my Mach 1 the PS4s in that size was hard to get at the time. One thing I do wish had been an option on the Mach 1 and Dark Horse would be to get...

Michelins PS4S or Continentals for me. I would never trust Pirellis after experiencing P Zeroes on my 16 GT. Those tires were awful.

Yep...if I had to buy today, a C8 would be in my driveway before a DH would be. Full stop. The opposite happened when I had to make that call between C8 and Mach 1 in 2021. Ford dealer has mustangs stacking up. Chevy dealer gets a few Corvettes in stock and sells at MSRP or $250 off and those...

I am curious about this "looks more aggressive." Because the front end is bigger? Because they removed accent lines on the side? Looks like a truck front end stuck on a car. Not sure I would characterize that as more aggressive but to each his own-it looks bulkier. 500hp is good on DH and I...

The reveal was not only less fanfare but downright terrible compared to S550. Pericak and his team were engaging and excited about the S550 mustang. The Chief Engineer and people at the S650 reveal were...not (I will be nice). About the only thing I remember was the Chief Engineer knew the...

At this point, I will be surprised if Ford keeps licensing the Shelby name. DH was a direct departure from that and if it will keep costs down on the special variants, maybe they should. The entire GTX and DH line that we see them pushing shows a strategy to get away from Shelby and push Ford...

2021 Mach 1 brought 500K...diminishing returns