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Ms. Dude, that's right I said it... DUDE! You say you are from Burleson but you speak like you are from Wacko, ehem, I mean Waco! You sadly mistaken passion for religion. We are an enthusiastic group to be sure but like some others have already said you really need to lighten up. You are...

Just because you can't afford it? I don't think so. However, the next best production Mustang would fit. Right now, that title belongs to the DH. So perhaps it's really the next, next best you seek? 😆

Zig appears to be a watercooler conversationalist. I'm just a (hardcore) Mustang enthusiast. 😎

A car is not defined by its price tag alone. You rationalize a $400K Mustang is not a Mustang. I have to break it to you the Mustang GTD IS a Mustang, regardless of price, period. People need to stop being ignorant about the GTD. THE GTD IS A PRODUCTION LEVEL MUSTANG!!! The very reason it...

You know nothing about the GTD. It LITERALLY starts with a production model right off the Flat Rock assembly line. Do your homework.

Mustang has (justifiably) been its own platform since 2015 and as we all know they cost as such too.

We already have that in the name of the GTD. So whatever Ford come's up with in between will only be second best. :wink:

People have to back up what they have to say otherwise there is no point.

It's not practical with a NA Coyote, I get that. However, it is theoretically possible with with ram air induction, but let's not go down that rabbit hole. People will pay regardless. Especially when it comes equipped with other tangibles outside of HP. The 5.2 on E85 is most certainly...

Wrong! It's all been speculative. You might want to look that up. You are ignorant of the facts as you do not have them. Otherwise you would be able to... "Show me the money!" ... "Show Me the Money!!" ... "SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!" You are skewing literal and figurative language. Mustang is...

550 HP NA would be very doable with the 5.2 and totally in line at that price point. 600 HP would be left on the table for tuners to tune. Very befitting a Boss style name plate, maybe even a DH Boss. That said it doesn't all come down to just HP, there are other factors to consider. I would...

I follow you but your logic is no longer relevant in todays market. History is not a good predictor either. If it were then you would have seen the Mach-E a mile away. I find it extremely laughable when people (other than Ford) says sales are poor. Where's your proof? Sales numbers are...

Heh, you must have missed my earlier post about the NA 5.2. Easier yes, but oh so different.

I don't disagree BUT you neglect to consider that people are going to make the comparison regardless. Let's also be honest, supercharged Mustangs are no longer exclusivities. Any GT can be a "Cobra" just not a factory built one UNLESS you are considering the FP800 package which again is just...

Well, I hate to state the obvious but Dark Horse by definition does mean "The one YOU didn't see coming." That alone breaks any precedent set in the last 25 years (aka Bullitt, okay so 23 years). I don't see the Dark Horse as anything but a running plate going forward, no different than GT...

Correct on Shelby but the DH isn't going anywhere. Expect to see Boss or Cobra. Perhaps a DH Boss. I was leaning towards the Cobra but Cobra's are supercharged. That could upset the GTD in terms of positioning. However, a 5.2 NA Coyote would fit the bill nicely. Some say the 5.2 should...

Agreed and you didn’t even mention the issue of special order deals that fall through! Yeah, dealers are not a fan for sure!

But the Steeda car has mods. What about a BONE STOCK NA tune??? Would like to see the tune results for a GT AND DH.

That's wishful thinking, unfortunately it's more about the price. When I bought my '09 it was during another uncertain economic time and the dealer wanted full MSRP and $5K markup. It had already sat for three months as did five more throughout the valley. I passed. Another three months...

Again, the word for that, which I will repeat here and highlight for you, is balance.