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Sorry not sorry, but you did the instant you brought the ZR1 into the discussion. Care to elaborate? Well, if you're shopping around then I don't blame you. But that's not really what you are doing. Heh, so FORD can arbitrarily label a MACH1 and a GT500 and you don't have a problem with it...

Looking forward to the outcome. When I first heard "Dark Horse" it was, admittedly, a jolt to my system. I thought "Dark Horse" hmm, but when you think about, awkward or not, the meaning of the name does fit. The difference now though is Dark Horse is not just a nameplate. It's an entire...

Farley was clearly miffed about the question. However, I don't think it's too far a reach to rationalize what he was trying to say. In Farley's eyes the GTD accomplishes what FORD set out to do with the Mustang. That took considerable time and resources to achieve. Since FORD also wants to...

It's precisely why he answered the way he did. Anyone on this forum that doesn't think a rhetorical question about their ride isn't going to incite a defensive posture and/or response is smoking something.

Perhaps, but then, don't be surprised by the reaction. I wasn't but many people here are like OMG.

Just a reminder, this discussion was about the HP wars not having any relevance to GDT owners' pride of ownership. It seems to me this goal-post was moved too. And on that note both can be true at the same time... that is the GTD vs GT3-RS and sub-7 seconds. :wink: I understand that the GTD...

NOT Wrong. I saw that interview. There is a thing called etiquette and prudence neither of which Chris demonstrated at that time. You don't get invited to a FORD debut and then think you can infer about the competition especially when it doesn't relate. This was a DH SC reveal which has...

To replace or to add? I like your stable of Bullitts. :wink:

The GTD is a statement product that wasn't built for anyone individual or class. It was built for one purpose and one purpose ONLY... Sub 7 second Nürburgring, which it did! That's it! Can't make that statement any plainer. Again, no GTD owner on the planet is going to give a rat's ass...

It did not come from Ford. It came from an eager reporter spreading fake news, but I don't think it was done to intentionally mislead. I think it was just semantics.

Precisely. The performance move from the S197 to the S650 was substantial. I considered the 2019 Bullitt but thought the $51K price was too much for some of the compromises I would have to make. Then the Dark Horse comes around for even more at $65K but there were far more pros then cons and...

The tables have turned. I need to remind you that YOU started all this, again! My presence on these boards are not indicative of anything but your ignorance is. I appreciate feedback, not diatribe. Time to wise up.

Good grief dude, you really need to get your facts straight...

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Point is the people that have this package aren't going to insult the GTD owners just because it produces about the same in HP. I'll tell you why in one word... COBRA. Remember what happened to FORD when they rated the '99 model? That's the only reason why they are treading carefully with the...

It's unproductive to complain for complaints sake, which most do just to be heard. Same goes for all the speculation that happens right up until the announcements are made. But hey, it's what we live for and it keeps us going (the speculation part not the complaining part.) I find it ironic...

Heh, it’s not Farley pushing the adgenda, it’s us! FORD started the SUV craze with the Bronco and people of all types keep buying into it, trucks too. Mustang enthusiasts are in the minority now.

It’s not but take the whining some where else. Complaining about naming conventions is flat out juvenile. Complaining that it’s like something else when it’s not is juvenile. Complaining that something doesn’t meet a particular need is also juvenile because you can bet it is meeting someone...

I don't think so. Has everyone forgotten about the FP800S already? Factor that into the equation and you might just blow your mind. I don't see this coming down to an HP war among the trim lines. There are so many other parameters that distinguish between the GT-500 and the DH SC and the GTD...

I said it here first, FORD can have no future if they are stuck in the past. A visit from the past now and then would be nice but it just wouldn't work with the new direction they are taking the nameplate. Dark Horse is here to stay just like I am and always have. For those that complain or...