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That’s weird. I couldn’t even order a Mach 1 here until mid 2022. No one had Mach 1 allocations and many didn’t even know what it is.

They test on them first.:cwl: ….If it flops, no one here sees it.

Equipment and specifications subject to change without notice is usually in all brochures and advertisements. Probably more valid now than ever.

Can’t help but think this might be the last time these cars, if they survive at all, will be anything close to what we’ve known.

As opposed to, let’s say, a fake world. Like the one some of us live in. :wink: Actually, everything is weird now.

It doesn’t have to be a Shelby because it’s a Mach 1. Neither does a Boss 302. Because it’s a Boss 302. :like: DH is something my wife calls me. (Amongst other things).

Just as a RETRO car should. No one does RETRO better than Dodge.

Hood scoops are as passé as hiking up the rear ends to fit bigger tires.

The C8 is a hideous pig.

Everyday I read these boards and I think of how many reasons I am thrilled with my Mach 1. Thank you all for that.

I must’ve missed something.

Only one problem. They aren’t upgrades.

My comment was not primarily focused on brand, but more focused on the fact that notwithstanding V8, the Challenger as it still is for the moment, is not a vehicle that could be cross shopped with just about anything else because of it’s unique and classic oriented design.

The Challenger is true to its roots. It handles better than it’s massive size would suggest, is fun to drive and you’re right, really comfortable. We love ours. Keeper.

QUOTE="Gregs24, post: 3201715, member: 36781"] You need to drive a Lotus or Alpine A110 to discover how liberating a lack of weight is. Everything comes alive and you don't need a huge heavy V million to power it. Ride is better because you can have softer springs as less weight to support so...

Unless the owners of Challengers and Camaro were living under a rock, they’ve known what was happening for a long while now and probably a large percentage plan to keep their vehicles rather than brand swap. Especially the Challenger owners.

For me, the color black on this car really makes the sharp rear crease and the larger rear diffuser appear much more homogeneous, pulled together and smooth. In fact it does same with the front. Looks great. Could it be that it makes it look (at a distance) more like an S550? :cwl::question...

Similar note: Anyone else notice anything that Kia/Hyundai makes always has some bizarre design element incorporated?

You don’t need the HP to run track driving. It’s more competitive, but there’s plenty of PP GT’s that track all the time and do it quite well. When it isn’t enough, a quick wheel tire change out is really simple or just do the bolt on HP parts. It’s not a big deal. People on here change out...

Because you want to believe.