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  1. 2024 mustang the problem with expectations

    lol this is true but the original program was 10 years. I still got a lot of the early documentation somewhere
  2. 2024 mustang the problem with expectations

    im honestly curious because it either will or won’t if they don’t we got a major problem, i also find it funny how the challenger comes up as a sport cars under sales data. Dodge really screwed up how to handle that car they didn’t have an option but man it’s a mess over there
  3. 2024 mustang the problem with expectations

    I get both sides of it the budget was small for the car ā€œEVs baby lolā€ and emissions are getting worse but it’s also like so you’re not going to go all out. Then be happy with that 50k ya sold last year because it won’t get better unless you drop the price
  4. 2024 mustang the problem with expectations

    Am i supposed to be impressed or something lmfao 🤣
  5. 2024 mustang the problem with expectations

    The way fords quality control is you’d be better off in the vette lmfao the mustang hasn’t been that bad but man it’s been rough on our end ā€œconsultationā€
  6. 2024 mustang the problem with expectations

    this is correct and i wouldn’t say it’s a failure because it is too soon for that. But in 2-3 years if sales absolutely tank ford has a problem. I just think they missed the boat and went for the millennials ā€œguys my age 30-35ā€ not realizing most of them can’t buy a dark horse or mustang gt NOW...
  7. 2024 mustang the problem with expectations

    Agreed but remember Ford classifies it
  8. 2024 mustang the problem with expectations

    lol šŸ˜‚ ya mean like how ford classifies it as a sports car to brag yeah okay
  9. 2024 mustang the problem with expectations

    bud you’re smoking crack if you think a ford mustang is a better drivers car than a GT3 or even a M4. As someone who rides around on an Italian stallion, it’s two different worlds. Also the mustang is not a sport car, I’ve always considered it to be a jack of all trades which is what it excels...
  10. 2024 mustang the problem with expectations

    Im surprised they haven’t shoved in the 3.0 Ecoboost and made a mustang ST. I’d buy one, they also don’t sound like butt because they have equal length exhaust manifolds. You’re 100 percent correct ford isn’t going to invest in a new motor unless they can use it or put it in the f150 Per say...
  11. 2024 mustang the problem with expectations

    The C8 is in its own world and this isn’t 2015 ford will not sell 120k mustangs, that’s my point. If it had some wild engine in it or was cheaper we would have a different decision. I love the 24s but ford is being lazy across the board not just with the Mustang. You can tell they put most of...
  12. 2024 mustang the problem with expectations

    This is true if it was a fusion enthusiast vehicles across the board are up considerably. I think ford thought they where going to have a C8 moment with the 2024s and it shows by how brass they where in the media about the car. Nothing except this more than watching Savage geese’s video, where...
  13. 2024 mustang the problem with expectations

    Unfortunately the coyote platform and architecture is getting very old. It originally had a 10 year lifespan, was both DI and boost rated from day 1 meaning they had plans for it down the road even though it took quite a while. With current emissions standards it’ll take more revs, or bigger...
  14. 2024 mustang the problem with expectations

    It’s more complicated than that because ford is taking the easy way out. Both GM and dodge had ultimatums that the general public didn’t know about. The Camaro sales where god awful after the refresh plus the C8 completely took the market, so Chevy said screw it no more Camaro. Dodge was given...
  15. 2024 mustang the problem with expectations

    I was really tired when i wrote my first post but i 100 percent agree for the money they could have gone mostly aluminum panels, and it wouldn’t have hurt the bottom line. The s650 is a gen 1.5 s550 and that’s not a bad thing but like i said the pricing is the major issue bar none
  16. 2024 mustang the problem with expectations

    I never said it was a failure it’s kinda of a disappointment from a sales/ aftermarket perspective. It’s an interesting topic to talk about because ford has had this problem before with the 94s, 96ā€was real badā€ and 2015s, it’ll all depend on long term support plus pricing incentives
  17. 2024 mustang the problem with expectations

    I’ve been a forum guy for 20 years been on every major Mustang forum, Ducati ā€œv4 owner hereā€, BMW ya name it because i enjoy learning and seeing what’s happening on the other side. I’ve seen a lot of post about the reception and sales of the 2024. I also work within the industry at the plant...
  18. Dark Horse poorly received??

    Everyone on here has made excellent points i find the 650 to have the same issue the s550 did at launch. Unrealistic expectations, remember all the 2015 mustang rumors, it was focking out of control from 500hp 5.0 direct injected V8 to all aluminum body panels. Basically it was out of control so...
  19. Dark Horse poorly received??

    I know it lol šŸ˜‚ they have some real audacity
  20. Dark Horse poorly received??

    As someone who actually is involved with ford at a corporate level. We are going to see a mid 00s ford unfortunately they’re going to milk this poor car in all the wrong ways. And they know it, and you can still get a GT for a good price but the Dark horse plus whatever else is down the pipe...





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