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68k is reasonable but some of these dealers are stone cold stupid. Yeah let’s order a maxed out build then ask over list lmfao yeah okay. Nah he traded his GT350 and regrets it

100 percent value changes overtime, i remember when the GT350s first came out and people where like “the boss 302s are better will be worth more etc” not too long after that you could find them for 30k all day long they tanked hard because the GT350 really hit the market hard even with the...

Agreed but he’s also not entirely wrong my buddy got a dark horse and has been disappointed in its performance per say. Honestly i think the pricing is the major issues 55-60k would be a great msrp for it but nah man lets price them up too 85k

To be blunt for the money they’re charging it should have been on the level of the boss 302 “effort wise” aka push the motor more or drop weight with special materials. I mean focking something like i said In my comment above the previous mach 1 suffered this same issue but it sold based on its...

When it comes to whether or not a vehicle or trim is poorly received is really hard because it can totally be a by area issue meaning. Out in California it could be selling like crazy and sit around in a dealer in Indiana for two years. Having said that the dark horse seems to be selling around...

Not really with knock sensors and these really adaptive ECUs it’ll pull or add timing based on 100 things so it’s a moot point

lol 😂 as someone whose involved with motorcycles and other off the wall stuff. Some brands definitely do play games when it some to Hp certifications or they intentionally make a very conservative tune setup for warranty or emissions reasons. While the Germans and McLaren don’t give a crap they...

Originally i was going to post a very nice and detailed response till i read the OPs entire post. Buddy you’re either very young or don’t know anything about cars. Nobody and i mean not one oem uses a wheel or hub dyno for engine verification. There is way way way too many variables that go down...

There biggest mistake it’s not having the ICE version ready to go at launch. The way the electric car market has been crashing i don’t see this car selling very well till the in-line 6 comes out. Honestly it just needs to be on par with the B58 reliability wise and it’ll be a fantastic engine...

As someone who works for ford i seriously doubt some poor soul on the line is doing a wrap. They’re probably going to outsource it like they did the painted stripes on the GT500.

He’s being dumb catch cans serve a major purpose if you track/drag or drive the car hard. The primary reason is oil in the combustion chamber even a little bit is really bad for octane. It’ll lower it enough to where you can have knock issues which is why ford have a factory catch can to gt500...

It also significantly reduces your total octane when there’s a bunch of oil in the combustion chamber. Don’t forget that.

Most of the gains will be getting rid of torque management

im not a personal fan of the older ford racing tunes, “they had an outside shop work with them back in the day” They are really mediocre tunes but the once they brought alot of the work in when ford performance was brought together. I’d have no issue throwing one of there safe A55 tunes on my...

This is correct the new system is android based

lol 1) don’t listen to Hennessey 2) it’s going to be a good wait and i mean a good wait, don’t be surprised if they’re isn’t anything after marking tuning available unless they bench flash or figure out a work around like they do on the GR Corolla 3) I’m surprised FRPP, Roush and Whipple...

Not it won’t be because they have to run GPFs on them for emissions particulates. Aka it’ll sound muffled

That’s not necessarily a bad thing if the FRPP tune ends up being good and also has some cool features. It would be hard to complain unless you wanted to go to the moon but most people would be happy with an FRPP tune, intake and maybe a louder exhaust

That’s because of the gearing in the dark horse 3160 it’s like the gen 1 and 2 cars aka you’re making an extra shift to get through the quarter mile, and the slow no lift shift isn’t helping at all What’s really odd about all of this is for 60-130 times the crapper MT82 gearing makes the GT 1-2...

If you could get Recaro it would really be a slap in the fact to them