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Here's my take on the whole recall and Ford quality gripes.

1. Our (myself included) perspective is skewed by our personal experience. If I get a car with a ton of problems and recalls, my perception is going to be that the quality of the brand is awful. If I get a car with no problems, alternatively, my perception is the quality of the brand is good. My Mustang was one of the first 2024 models produced, I picked it up 9/1/23, and it has been great. I've either had one or two previous recalls, neither of which were significant. My car is included in the current recall as well. I love the car, but if I had nothing but trouble since day one, as some people have, then I may be in the "I'll never own another Ford" camp like some of you.

2. The total number of recalls is not the entire story. Some are very minor, some are major. Some manufacturers may choose to let things ride in hopes they don't get forced to issue a recall; some may be proactive and issue a recall just to be safe. Using the number of recalls as the lone metric for ranking manufacturers is not likely to produce a complete picture of quality.

3. Nearly every manufacturer has products which seem to be nothing but trouble and others that have few problems. I had a 2023 BMW X3, which was wonderful. No recalls, dealer was great, maintenance included in the purchase, drove like a dream, and the only issue was the iDrive system and Carplay was very glitchy. Year 3 and 65k miles of ownership, it was leaking oil from the rear main seal. The car was great until it wasn't and then it required a very expensive fix. I traded it on a 2026 BMW X3. I had a 2017 Ram 2500 with a transmission go out twice before 75k miles, the a/c fan broke every 12 months and the EGR cooler blew at 50k miles and was not part of the powertrain warranty. My 1993 Ford Festiva blew the engine at under 60k miles. That car was a piece of junk. The point is, no manufacturer is immune to issues with their vehicles.

I check the reviews on independent review sites, such as Consumer Reports, before purchasing a vehicle to see what the predicted reliability and owner satisfaction are. FYI, the 2026 Mustang has a 50/100 (Average) predicted reliability and a 74/100 (Good) predicted owner satisfaction. It is rated as #8 of 9 (in the 4/5 seat sports car category), but is listed as a "CR Recommended" vehicle.

I completely get those who have had problem after problem with their Mustang never wanting to own another one, but I would guess that is not the norm given the number of Mustangs that Ford sells and the overall ratings. I've owned a 2019 and a 2024, and both have been great. My 2024 gets driven hard on the track, and it amazes me how well it holds up.

Buy the car you want and makes you feel better, but understand there is a risk that whatever you buy could be a lemon.
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Here's my take on the whole recall and Ford quality gripes.

1. Our (myself included) perspective is skewed by our personal experience. If I get a car with a ton of problems and recalls, my perception is going to be that the quality of the brand is awful. If I get a car with no problems, alternatively, my perception is the quality of the brand is good. My Mustang was one of the first 2024 models produced, I picked it up 9/1/23, and it has been great. I've either had one or two previous recalls, neither of which were significant. My car is included in the current recall as well. I love the car, but if I had nothing but trouble since day one, as some people have, then I may be in the "I'll never own another Ford" camp like some of you.

2. The total number of recalls is not the entire story. Some are very minor, some are major. Some manufacturers may choose to let things ride in hopes they don't get forced to issue a recall; some may be proactive and issue a recall just to be safe. Using the number of recalls as the lone metric for ranking manufacturers is not likely to produce a complete picture of quality.

Buy the car you want and makes you feel better, but understand there is a risk that whatever you buy could be a lemon.
Indeed.
As a recent example, both Suburu and Nissan are recalling 500k and 170k cars due to an incorrect label which has the wrong GWAR rating printed on it.

I agree, buy what you want and enjoy it!
 

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If i saw correctly, and I stand here to be corrected, there were 150,000 recalled and 1% of those are effected. so 1500 total ?
 

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If i saw correctly, and I stand here to be corrected, there were 150,000 recalled and 1% of those are effected. so 1500 total ?
Like many recalls, the actual numbers affected are small, they just have to look at all of them to determine which are affected.
 

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Had been to dealership today and asked them to check if grounding is good but they had no time for it asked if I can schedule appointment they said the don’t know what to look for(I’m like 🤦🏻‍♂️) I’m not really worried about lights or wiper functioning like everyone. Main concern is loss of power for me as this my daily and do lot of highway driving. I’m sure many members here have boosted/tuned cars and some of their vin showed up for recall as well. How you guys checking your cars like safe for driving or racing? I have gotten new tunes yet to be added so should I wait or can go ahead with tuning? Any input appreciated.
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I see in the schematics the PCM and Trans are grounded at G101 which the location given is "Right Side Engine Compartment". Do you guys think this could be G1D145? It also appears this location gets grounded to the engine itself through G113 which is listed as "Top Front of Engine"...

This G1D145 is my greatest concern as this would cause me to be stuck on the side of the road waiting for a tow. All the others would be simple annoyances. I've made and designed harnesses in my time, so I want to locate the most critical one so I can keep an eye on it and if need be repair it myself. (Or at least get me home. Until there is a proper fix from Ford.)
I Agree that ground is the PCM (Power Train Control Module) and ground loss there would be nasty. So, you need to stay focused on G101 point on the schematics that covers all the grounding to the PCM. Screen cut for location is attached for reference.

S650 Mustang Just got a recall 2024 Mustang - 26C40 ENGINE HARNESS GROUND EYELET REPLACEMENT GROUND_G101
 

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Had been to dealership today and asked them to check if grounding is good but they had no time for it asked if I can schedule appointment they said the don’t know what to look for(I’m like 🤦🏻‍♂️) I’m not really worried about lights or wiper functioning like everyone. Main concern is loss of power for me as this my daily and do lot of highway driving. I’m sure many members here have boosted/tuned cars and some of their vin showed up for recall as well. How you guys checking your cars like safe for driving or racing? I have gotten new tunes yet to be added so should I wait or can go ahead with tuning? Any input appreciated.
TIA
You should stay focused on G111 and G104 ground points. G104 is the left front lamp assembly and G111 is the right headlamp assembly and also cover the wiper motor ground. Screen shot atached for reference.

S650 Mustang Just got a recall 2024 Mustang - 26C40 ENGINE HARNESS GROUND EYELET REPLACEMENT G104_and G111
 

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Any picture of that G101 under the hood? I wouldn’t know where to look from this drawing.
I Agree that ground is the PCM (Power Train Control Module) and ground loss there would be nasty. So, you need to stay focused on G101 point on the schematics that covers all the grounding to the PCM. Screen cut for location is attached for reference.

GROUND_G101.webp
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