FP Whipple warranty ?

[ugasouthernpride]

I have a 2026 on order…had a 24 that was a lemon and my 25 fell off of a train, so I’m trying again for one. Third time the charm?

Anyone know when they will certify the Whipple for the 2026. It’s not listed on the FP website. Main reason I got this thing was to supercharge it. I’m going to freak the F out if they will not offer the Whipple for the 2026.

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[System]

Currently the FP Whipple tune/calibration is on hold for all S650s.

 

[Neggytive]

Once they get the tune issue resolved, Ford Performance, now "Ford Racing" will probably offer the Whipple again with A Ford approved tune. It will be interesting to see if the new tune is as stout as the original one with a claimed 804 HP on a GT without active exhaust.

The Ford tune has to be emissions legal and is at the limit Ford thinks the engine, etc will hold together without a lot of resulting warranty claims. So far with the FP tune there are no widespread reports of problems.

Now with that said there are limitations to the Ford and Ford Performance/Ford Racing warranties, especially the FP warranty that has a very low dollar payout should something catastrophic go wrong.

Ford Performance specifically points out things that if done to the car will void the warranty, running slicks and long tube headers being a couple IIRC.

People that have pushed past the limits of the Ford tune have found that among other things the Catalytic Converters can fail due to high heat and high flow issues.

Now this is not a slam against Dustin, he makes a great product, but I bought mine with the intent of doing the Ford Performance supercharger install, I set aside the money (which is still sitting in the bank earmarked for that project) to have a shop in FL do the install once I got some break in miles on the drivetrain.

In the end once I drove the car I decided 480 at the crank was enough for me. I also had some concerns about trying to boost an engine with a CR of over 12:1. Normally boosted applications have a much lower CR. There is only so much room at the top of the stroke and although you can compress air quite a bit, it is really really hard to compress a liquid, most people will say you can't compress a liquid and I agree. You are already asking the pistons and rods to do a lot of work in the stock configuration, adding fuel to the fire is going to make them work even harder and I don't trust Ford to put that much of a safety factor in the reciprocating assembly that it is going to have long term reliability.

Now that is just my opinion, and I realize I am in the minority but time will tell if I am right or wrong.

At this point, after seeing everything else that is going wrong with Fords engines across the board ( the 5.0 being the only reliable one in the whole product line IMHO) I just don't trust that Ford has enough of a safety factor in their design (reliability costs money and they are known not to spend money on it) to risk a $8K long block on it.

 

[Gojiras breath]

Does Ford not offer the roush supercharger. Installed and with warranty? Thats where my money would go. No tuning issues that i am aware of.

 

[System]

Does Ford not offer the roush supercharger. Installed and with warranty? Thats where my money would go. No tuning issues that i am aware of.

Not that I know of and technically, the warranty offered on the FP Whipple is also paid for / covered by Whipple. And, it's only $7500 on the Whipple version and $8k on the FP version. (I think those amounts are right but if I'm off by $500, take it easy on me. Close enough for government work... ) So, if you grenade your Coyote, you'll need out of pocket money beyond what the warranty covers anyway. That said, the Roush looks way cooler reusing the dual throttle bodies. However it's been known to make a little less power from the dyno pulls I've seen and is noisier (some prefer more whine so that's not a bad thing.)

 

[Gojiras breath]

Of course it's gonna dyno more. It allows more timing in the tune. Some say an unsafe amount of timing.

That said, the Roush looks way cooler reusing the dual throttle bodies. However it's been known to make a little less power from the dyno pulls I've seen and is noisier (some prefer more whine so that's not a bad thing.)

Of course it's gonna dyno more. It allows more timing in the tune. Some say an unsafe amount of timing. That is my opinion on why whipple tunes are stopped for now. Its tuned like it's on 100 octane fuel yet is sold as 91 or 93 octane compatable. I'd stay away from them right now. New cars are sitting at dealerships with whipples installed and they are not allowing the tune to go in. They are stuck there sitting.

 

[System]

Of course it's gonna dyno more. It allows more timing in the tune. Some say an unsafe amount of timing.

Of course it's gonna dyno more. It allows more timing in the tune. Some say an unsafe amount of timing. That is my opinion on why whipple tunes are stopped for now. Its tuned like it's on 100 octane fuel yet is sold as 91 or 93 octane compatable. I'd stay away from them right now. New cars are sitting at dealerships with whipples installed and they are not allowing the tune to go in. They are stuck there sitting.

I understand the logic behind the timing theory (causing the hold.) May or may not be it. Time will tell. I don't think it's going to be much longer...

 

[Gojiras breath]

I'll ad that "boost for boost" they should all make almost the same hp. The difference would be the residual loss (hp to spin the pulley) and the tune. Past that it can be manipulated with octane. Like pooring a can of boostane in it. Sensors sniff the extra octane and increases timing. More HP. Roush is in a different category because they sell cars. They can't manipulate the numbers like an aftermarket supplier can. Their numbers are trusted. People that make money selling these kits can't always be trusted.

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