First s650 with ESS Supercharger / Blower

[MustangMental]

I've also read that. Guess it's best to save and get a car that comes with an SC, and is known to clean up the mustangs at the strip. It's no wonder people hate these cars. Mustangs just can't seem to catch them.

Just wait til the warranty is out and get one of the superchargers that doesn't come with it for added horsepower

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[Saphire]

Well, maybe if it's well tuned, but not stock and with it's stock SC. 650HP, I believe...and heavier. Still, with a much bigger displacement engine I'm sure you can push one further. Gonna cost you a LOT more as well, if that's a consideration at all.

I've seen the best Mustangs. Didn't believe they could, but they did. Neither were completely stock. Blackwings are not that heavy. About as heavy as a Dark Horse.

 

[Saphire]

Just wait til the warranty is out and get one of the superchargers that doesn't come with it for added horsepower

I'm really thinking about this Blackwing. The only thing that held me back is how much longer they'll be made. So parts may be hard to get. I know with a Mustang parts are plenty.

 

[Puddinpop]

I'm really thinking about this Blackwing. The only thing that held me back is how much longer they'll be made. So parts may be hard to get. I know with a Mustang parts are plenty.

Parts won't be hard to come by especially engine parts. It's still running the Lt4 and there are plenty of parts for those. I'd personally take the Blackwing over the Mustang and that's with me having a Stage 2 Roush blower on my Mustang.

 

[Puddinpop]

Well, maybe if it's well tuned, but not stock and with it's stock SC. 650HP, I believe...and heavier. Still, with a much bigger displacement engine I'm sure you can push one further. Gonna cost you a LOT more as well, if that's a consideration at all.

668hp and only a couple hundred pounds heavier than a pretty well equiped GT. That 659lb-ft of torque it puts out more than makes up for the weight it carries.

 

[Saphire]

Parts won't be hard to come by especially engine parts. It's still running the Lt4 and there are plenty of parts for those. I'd personally take the Blackwing over the Mustang and that's with me having a Stage 2 Roush blower on my Mustang.

Mustang drivers have really awful reputations. I see them pulled over night and day. Why I was pulled over the other day and the officer noticed I was in uniform and ask if was going to work or off duty. Off duty and headed home. He said have a wonderful day. I wasn't speeding at all. Sad thing is American cars have no power. Only thing left is the Mustang GT, CT5 V Blackwing, and the CT4 V Blackwing. I'm debating between the 6 cylinder turbo or the V8 SC'd monster. You get less attention in them unless in a bad neighborhood. Other than these three there's nothing else.

 

[Puddinpop]

Mustang drivers have really awful reputations. I see them pulled over night and day. Why I was pulled over the other day and the officer noticed I was in uniform and ask if was going to work or off duty. Off duty and headed home. He said have a wonderful day. I wasn't speeding at all. Sad thing is American cars have no power. Only thing left is the Mustang GT, CT5 V Blackwing, and the CT4 V Blackwing. I'm debating between the 6 cylinder turbo or the V8 SC'd monster. You get less attention in them unless in a bad neighborhood. Other than these three there's nothing else.

You still have the whole Corvette lineup unless you need back seats. They're all powerful enough to get you pulled over. The Mustangs problem is it doesn't make any torque down low and you've got to spin them high to get them going. That's why I chose the Roush to help the lower end.

 

[Sinthor 5.56]

Just wait til the warranty is out and get one of the superchargers that doesn't come with it for added horsepower

Nah, I want the warranty. And 800+ HP is more than fine.

 

[Saphire]

You still have the whole Corvette lineup unless you need back seats. They're all powerful enough to get you pulled over. The Mustangs problem is it doesn't make any torque down low and you've got to spin them high to get them going. That's why I chose the Roush to help the lower end.

That is true. I believe if you use a 3.18 axle the Roush or Whipple would still move it like a bat out of hell. You know in some areas it hard to get an A10/3:55. I almost had to settle with that ratio. Those two SC will give gobs of torque on the bottom end. My uncle has a Whipple in his base GT. But because of the power and he has stock half shafts he takes it easy.

 

[Puddinpop]

That is true. I believe if you use a 3.18 axle the Roush or Whipple would still move it like a bat out of hell. You know in some areas it hard to get an A10/3:55. I almost had to settle with that ratio. Those two SC will give gobs of torque on the bottom end. My uncle has a Whipple in his base GT. But because of the power and he has stock half shafts he takes it easy.

3.15 is king with boost. Goal is not to go into 7th when you start making bigger power.

 

[Saphire]

3.15 is king with boost. Goal is not to go into 7th when you start making bigger power.

Maybe I should think of something like that for my F-150. Would give great pulling power in the mountains. Thing only has a 5.0.

 

[Junkyard Dog]

Nah, I want the warranty. And 800+ HP is more than fine.

Let us know how it goes. Whipple claims 810 horsepower and 659 lb ft. of torque.

It's my belief self-installs void the Ford powertrain warranty.

If the unit was installed by a Ford Technician, Ford and Whipple will warranty the powertrain against Whipple-induced problems, up to $7500 US. See my Edit below.

But for self-installs, while you have a warranty with Whipple for their parts, (See my edit below)the Ford warranty for the engine, possibly the drivetrain, is now void.

Im attaching the warranty guides for Ford and Whipple.

Ford: "Any damage caused to Ford components due to the failure of aftermarket parts (other than a certified emissions part) is not covered."

Whipple:
" To obtain warranty service on your vehicle upfitted with the Whipple Supercharger Kit(s), the vehicle must have an operational odometer and have maintenance services performed at the intervals as stated in the Ford Motor Company’s vehicle maintenance schedule, either at a Ford dealership or commercial maintenance center. You must present these invoices in the unlikely event of a warranty claim; therefore, we strongly recommend that you retain them for your records.

You must submit copies of the following documents with your warranty claim: (a) your warranty registration form, (b) the receipt showing installation of the Whipple Supercharger Kit(s) by a certified Ford Automotive Technician or ASE automotive service technician, and (c) all requested vehicle maintenance records."

Edit,

Whipple will cover $7500 per engine, $2000 per transmission.

"When a Whipple Supercharger Kit(s) purchased from an Authorized Whipple Dealer is correctly and completely installed by a certified automotive technician or automotive service technician certified by the Institute for Automotive Service Excellence (ASE) on an eligible, legally registered, and licensed vehicle with an operational odometer, Whipple will cover defects in materials and workmanship during the Warranty Period, as solely determined by us."

"Our total liability per covered vehicle under this warranty is limited to $9,500.00 USD (aggregate). Each covered component has its own aggregate value which when combined equals the total liability per vehicle. The engine is covered for $7500.00 USD and $2000.00 USD per transmission. These amounts cannot be combined together to aid in the repair of another covered component."

I continue to read Whipple's warranty. It's very specific. As I continue to read this, it reads like Whipple will only warranty the products if they are installed by a certified tech. Ford will support their warranty, if the Whipple was installed by a Whipple/Ford dealer. Whipple will warranty their parts, if installed by a certified technician. Self-installs? Whipple might not warranty anything at all.

YMMV.

That quote is from here:

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He also uploaded the warranty information in attachments to his post, so you can read what he provided (I did not read it, but it is there for you).

Excited for you. 810 horsepower is a monster. I think it is funny that some think that is not much.

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