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I checked the Brochure (pic below) and ...
Ugghhhh!!!!
I never looked that close at the pictures in the FoA brochure, but there it is.

S650 Mustang 2024 Mustang Australia (AU) Pricing and Timing Schedule ASS-AU


In Job 1 US GTs that switch was not labeled.

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The generic and vague dumb ass manual said:
The engine is required to run to
maintain interior climate and reduce
fogging.
So having the A/C on will prevent the stop/start?
 

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Wait, the manual was revised.


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I hope you are correct about easily permanently disabling it. To quote Pauline, could you "Please Explain"?
There’s several conditions which prevent the engine from shutting down when auto stop/start is “on”. One of those is battery voltage. Generally there is a battery voltage sensor connected directly to the positive terminal of the battery specifically for stop/start. Disconnect there connector and viola! There may be an error message appear the first time the engine
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So having the A/C on will prevent the stop/start?
Not necessarily.
 


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Hi, How were you able to purchase as the website only lists 23MY.
As i said previously: They haven't updated it yet, just go through the process for the MY23, and make a note in the comments / options it is for an MY24. They will contact you for confirmation, and new MY23s are no longer available on sale anyway.

They put it out to tender at Fleet Prices, and you will probably get 5-6 Tenders over the next 4-5 days. Compare Best Prices on the 2023 Ford Mustang (motorscout.com.au)
 

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Has anyone else noticed?

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With Job 2, the US GT now gets stop/start, something that was missing from Job 1. :shock:

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Our 1st and second allocations are a part of Job 2, however there was no reference to the stop/start system with the Aussie GTs.

Has anyone had any information from their dealer about this?
This is something I can definitely do without! :curse:
Photo of interior on the Aussie prototype and yes it will have as its now a standard requirement by ADR

S650 Mustang 2024 Mustang Australia (AU) Pricing and Timing Schedule Screenshot 2023-11-18 at 2.37.05 pm
 

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Photo of interior on the Aussie prototype and yes it will have as its now a standard requirement by ADR

Screenshot 2023-11-18 at 2.37.05 pm.png
That same Yellow Splash RHD prototype that had the strut tower brace?

S650 Mustang 2024 Mustang Australia (AU) Pricing and Timing Schedule RHD Engine Bay
 
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Wait, the manual was revised.


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Spot on ! Except China has no intention of ever meeting internationally imposed emissions agreements, and will only reach Peak Emissions when its economy collapses, which the gormless Utopian (actually dystopian) chasing Green cretins are feeding and supercharging by shutting down our Industries (and Power Stations), who mostly are forced to move to China or India, and purchasing all our B/S Solar Panels and Wind Turbines from China, which are made with our raw materials and Coal. (China is building two Coal Fired Power Stations per Week!)
 
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That same Yellow Splash RHD prototype that had the strut tower brace?

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Correct, here is another image and this one is US market it doesn't have the feature. US emissions regs are some of the most lenient in the developed world. The emissions we must meet here in Australia are EU5, which are stricter than the 50-state regs in the USA

S650 Mustang 2024 Mustang Australia (AU) Pricing and Timing Schedule Screenshot 2023-11-18 at 3.26.50 pm
 
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Correct, here is another image and this one is US market it doesn't have the feature. US emissions regs are some of the most lenient in the developed world. The emissions we must meet here in Australia are EU5, which are stricter than the 50-state regs in the USA

Screenshot 2023-11-18 at 3.26.50 pm.png
Sorry, but US Automotive emissions regs are now at least Euro 5 (same as Aust). There was very little difference in rated power output between the outgoing US & AU Gen 3 Coyote, AND the US has been hit with Bidens much more stringent "Green New Deal" from 2023 onwards. The 2023 US Mustang GT dropped power to 450 hp (10 Hp) and 410 Lb Ft - when ours remained at 339 Kw (454.6 Hp).
 

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Correct, here is another image and this one is US market it doesn't have the feature. US emissions regs are some of the most lenient in the developed world. The emissions we must meet here in Australia are EU5, which are stricter than the 50-state regs in the USA

Screenshot 2023-11-18 at 3.26.50 pm.png
And as stated above, directly from the FoMoCo builder, Auto Start/Stop is now included with Job 2 US GTs.

https://shop.ford.com/configure/mus...tang|2024|1|1.|400A.P8C..PJS...COU.GT.YZTAC.]

It was always a "late availability" item.

S650 Mustang 2024 Mustang Australia (AU) Pricing and Timing Schedule Capture.JPG


This is more of an annoyance, than a surprise.
We knew it was coming.
 

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And as stated above, directly from the FoMoCo builder, Auto Start/Stop is now included with Job 2 US GTs.

https://shop.ford.com/configure/mus...tang|2024|1|1.|400A.P8C..PJS...COU.GT.YZTAC.]

It was always a "late availability" item.

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This is more of an annoyance, than a surprise.
We knew it was coming.
I see, so it says its a late availability which means its not a standard requirement by their Equivalent of ADR what ever it is in USA perhaps NTSB. there are over 5000+ Mustangs on the road without so far.
 

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Sorry, but US Automotive emissions regs are now at least Euro 5 (same as Aust). There was very little difference in rated power output between the outgoing US & AU Gen 3 Coyote, AND the US has been hit with Bidens much more stringent "Green New Deal" from 2023 onwards. The 2023 US Mustang GT dropped power to 450 hp (10 Hp) and 410 Lb Ft - when ours remained at 339 Kw (454.6 Hp).
Don't be sorry, Im being updated here for you see I switched off what goes on ever since Biden ran the country :p....so tell me how is it they got away with increasing hp a tad bit on the s650 if they needed to de tune the s550 MY23 for emissions ? You sure it was not some sort of strategy they placed to make like th 7th has some "increased power" than its previous models other wise people would be upset the car is all dolled up but same existing power as MY22 before they deducted 10hp on 2023MY.
 
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Don't be sorry, Im being updated here for you see I switched off what goes on ever since Biden ran the country :p....so tell me how is it they got away with increasing hp a tad bit on the s650 if they needed to de tune the s550 MY23 for emissions ? You sure it was not some sort of strategy they placed to make like th 7th has some "increased power" than its previous models other wise people would be upset the car is all dolled up but same existing power as MY22 before they deducted 10hp on 2023MY.
I agree with your distain about Biden (!), however the 2023 GT 10 Hp & 10 Lb-Ft Torque reductions were directly due to the impact of Bidens hysterical "Green New Deal".

This involved Ford placing additional Carbon Filters (which are removeable), however as our Australian (Euro 5) Standards did not require the additional Filters, our cars were unaffected.

I compiled a chart below to demonstrate the differences, and the anomaly with the 15.4 Kw & 16.7 Nm Gen 4 power loss from the US Spec Engine, coming from the previous minimal difference between the US and Australian Gen 3 GT is obvious.

With the glaring inconsistency, I seriously wonder if whoever was tasked with Australian Compliance stuffed-up!!

Power 347kW @ 7,250rpm (Down 15.4Kw from US S650 @ 362.4Kw – Plus 8 Kw @ + 250 Rpm, from previous FN)

Torque 550Nm @ 4,850rpm
(Down 16.7Nm from US S650 @ 566.7Nm –Down 6 Nm @ + 250 Rpm from previous FN)

5.0 Gen 3 Coyote V8 GTPower Hp / Kw@ RPMTotque Lb-Ft / Nm@ RPM
2018-2022 - US460 / 343 Kw7,000420 / 569.44 Nm4,600
2023 – US (Biden’s Emissions)450 / 336.56 Kw7,000410 / 555.94,600
2018-2023 - Australia454.6 / 339 Kw7,000410.08 / 556 Nm4,600
2024 5.0 Gen 4 Coyote V8 GT
2024 US486 / 362.4 Kw7,250418 / 566.7 Nm4,900
2024 Australia465.3 / 347 Kw7,250405.66 / 550 Nm4,850
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