Can the piped in fake exhaust sound be silenced?

[Finface]

Several of the YouTube reviewers have commented that the eco-boost model has fake piped in sound of some kind and quality. To augment the actual exhaust pipe sound.

This might be fun for "spirited" driving, but I think I'd like to silence it most of the time. Why buy a good audio system in a car and then pollute that with "vroom, vroom" fake exhaust sounds? And who would want a steady drone on the freeway?

If it can be silenced with a function of the electronic control display (forgot correct name for this), or perhaps otherwise, would that silencing of the fake exhaust sound feature be specific to the two exhaust pipe base model? Or would it work with the the upgraded four exhaust pipes too? Or, maybe only can be silenced with the upgraded exhaust?

I have a Hellcat and while the car is not a bad "touring" car the drone of the V-8's exhaust is always with you. I bought the upgraded Harmon Kardon audio and it pretty much is a joke as far as listening quality - partly because of the always present real exhaust system noise.

Thanks in advance if any one really knows the answer to this. No guessing, please.

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[RJV15]

Does the V8 have fake engine noise in the cabin?
Thats a damn shame if thats true.

 

[Deleted member 17846]

Does the V8 have fake engine noise in the cabin?
Thats a damn shame if thats true.

They use to but pretty sure it doesn't anymore. I think that started on the 2010 GT's. I know I had it on that vehicle and it was easily plugged up before I got an intake on it.

 

[LETHAL]

They use to but pretty sure it doesn't anymore. I think that started on the 2010 GT's. I know I had it on that vehicle and it was easily plugged up before I got an intake on it.

My 15 and 18 GTs had it. Remove the pipe and cap the hole LOL.

 

[Zig]

Does the V8 have fake engine noise in the cabin?
Thats a damn shame if thats true.

It was my understanding its actual true sound, as in not a fake sound track but rather an open line to the intake. Kinda like holding a glass to a wall a listening…..

 

[LETHAL]

It was my understanding its actual true sound, as in not a fake sound track but rather an open line to the intake. Kinda like holding a glass to a wall a listening…..

This.. yes

 

[Bikeman315]

Several of the YouTube reviewers have commented that the eco-boost model has fake piped in sound of some kind and quality. To augment the actual exhaust pipe sound.

This might be fun for "spirited" driving, but I think I'd like to silence it most of the time. Why buy a good audio system in a car and then pollute that with "vroom, vroom" fake exhaust sounds? And who would want a steady drone on the freeway?

If it can be silenced with a function of the electronic control display (forgot correct name for this), or perhaps otherwise, would that silencing of the fake exhaust sound feature be specific to the two exhaust pipe base model? Or would it work with the the upgraded four exhaust pipes too? Or, maybe only can be silenced with the upgraded exhaust?

I have a Hellcat and while the car is not a bad "touring" car the drone of the V-8's exhaust is always with you. I bought the upgraded Harmon Kardon audio and it pretty much is a joke as far as listening quality - partly because of the always present real exhaust system noise.

Thanks in advance if any one really knows the answer to this. No guessing, please.

Yes you can. Been an issue since I had my EB back in 2015.

post #11
https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/how-to-disable-fake-engine-noise-2020-ecoboost.146526/

https://www.mustangecoboost.net/thr...-the-fake-engine-noise-on-the-ecoboost.19585/

 

[Zig]

How Ford Made the Mustang Shelby GT500 the Right Kind of Loud

….And the dark art of engine harmonics is why a careful ear can distinguish V-8s from Ford, Mercedes-AMG and Ferrari.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-ca...-mustang-shelby-gt500-the-right-kind-of-loud/

 

[Finface]

Yes you can. Been an issue since I had my EB back in 2015.

post #11
https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/how-to-disable-fake-engine-noise-2020-ecoboost.146526/

https://www.mustangecoboost.net/thr...-the-fake-engine-noise-on-the-ecoboost.19585/

Bikeman,

Thank you for the links. I read both of them to the end...

...and, fascinating to read how people are convinced they know the answers when somebody is by definition wrong. Here is what I noted that seem to be the correct information about previous model years than 2024 Ford-designed engine and exhaust amplification;

“On the eco-boost the fake sound is produced from the engine sound and rpm not the exhaust note.”

“I hope also everyone here realizes that the GT also pumps "fake sound" into the cabin, not through the speakers like an Ecoboost, but through a physical rubber sound tube connected to the air intake. So even the GT's have 'fake' or amplified sound put into the cabin.”

”Here’s the FORScan code I used to disable fake engine noise on my 2019 Bullitt: ACM 727-01-01 xxxx x0xx xxxx. If fake engine noise is enabled, there would be a '2' instead.”

And another poster wrote in response…”Before I go into that mess I’ve got to know definitely that I can turn off the fake noise while keeping the Active Noise Canceling (ANC).

“All I can say is the ANC is separate from the Sound Symposer that pumps fake engine noises through the speakers. I have disconnected the mics in the head liner and the overall noise in the cabin goes up which is not what I wanted but the fake engine sound stays.”

“I have an '18 Ecoboost and I didn't want the Sound Symposer or ANC. YES I disconnected the Mics (front and rear) and the ANC went away but the Symposer remained.”

And, you wrote, “The enhanced/fake engine sounds may not be for us enthusiasts, but they serve a purpose for the majority of owners.”

I agree the enhanced engine sounds (eco-boost faking V-8 engine sounds, and the physical rubber sound tube enhancing actual V-8 sounds), and fake exhaust sounds (prerecorded so fake, actual amplified, or tuned for Sport and Track modes only - take your pick because I don't think anyone in those threads really knows - or if they do they didn't write up the answers clearly), DO, in Ford's marketing department's eyes, serve a desired purpose for the majority of owners.

Same marketing decision to elevate either the sense of ownership, or to impress ignorant observers (who don't know the front grills and hood are different), or both, with ordering a 2024 eco-boost model with the Night Pony Package. This puts GT and 5.0 emblems on the eco-boost, among the other changes. Whatever...eye roll here...

A poster said the obvious about the eco-boost's Sound Symposer, namely why an electronically sourced audio track that emanates from the audio system's speakers cannot be turned off, and on, via the Touchscreen. How hard would that be to do?

Also, none of the answers in those links definitively answered whether the Sound Symposer on the eco-boost functions in all modes, or just in Sport and Track.

Lastly, the 2024 Dodge Hornet is an EV mid-size SUV. It has a totally fake exhaust sound system with dedicated speakers (I believe).

 

[MGHTYDX]

Lastly, the 2024 Dodge Hornet is an EV mid-size SUV. It has a totally fake exhaust sound system with dedicated speakers (I believe).
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I believe the 2024 Dodge Hornet is a plug-in hybrid, not EV.

https://www.dodge.com/hornet/specs.gt.html

 

[Finface]

And I'll add this mystery eco-boost question about the 2024 GT's active valve performance exhaust's four selectable, and different, noise/sound levels (if they are in fact the same as previous model years, or perhaps can be verified by someone here in the know, because none of the YouTube reviewers I saw broke them all out)...

...from the built site you can add the "active valve performance exhaust" option to the base eco-boost model, which adds the quad exhaust pipe tips (and, presumably, the diffuser that goes along with the quad tip configuration). It costs the same as adding it to a GT model - $1,225.

But as far as I can tell they are two very different things. On the GT the option ups the HP six HP (someone said only in Track Mode - can anyone verify that for the 2024 GT?) and actually does change the exhaust notes heard outside (and maybe inside - with, or without augmented sound from the speakers?).

But what would this option do for the eco-boost engine?

 

[Finface]

Lastly, the 2024 Dodge Hornet is an EV mid-size SUV. It has a totally fake exhaust sound system with dedicated speakers (I believe).

I believe the 2024 Dodge Hornet is a plug-in hybrid, not EV.

https://www.dodge.com/hornet/specs.gt.html
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DX,

You are correct - thank you! I was going from recall and should have checked the model - the Dodge I had in mind was the EV Daytona. From this article - https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a43040319/updated-daytona-ev-exhaust-sound/#

"Called the Fratzonic Chambered Exhaust, the purely electric external sound system uses an amplifier near the rear of the car to produce a 126-decibel "exhaust" noise. It was first shown to the public in August 2022 to mixed reactions.

"Did we crack the code on wide-open motors? Not yet. But we've got two years," CEO Tim Kuniskis said in an interview following the event. "We have changed the sound of that car 1000 times and we will continue to."

Now, having said all I've said about my desiring a way to quiet the eco-boost's exhaust in the cabin - and my comment about the Dodge EV - cars should make some exterior noise simply so pedestrian's can hear them coming.

I'm for the ice cream truck melody.

 

[Adeel3466]

I wouldn’t consider the GTs sound “fake” if it’s just being amplified a little but a sound tube the sound it self is real and that wouldn’t bother me but the fake sound in the EcoBoost is something I wouldn’t want

 

[Apeman]

Does the V8 have fake engine noise in the cabin?
Thats a damn shame if thats true.

I sure hope so

 

[Finface]

I sure hope so

Apeman,

At risk of thread creep for my own thread.

Speaking of V-8's...I had a 1964 and a half Mustang coupe 50 years ago. My first car. It had the 260 cubic inch engine, and it had the automatic tranny. Can you please post a picture of your car's rear end? Mine had different taillights than stock - I think...dunno...maybe the 1964 and a half had mine? I seem to remember the used car salesman said they were thunderbird taillights.

Maybe my car, which I bought with about 85,000 miles on it, had been rear-ended and rebuilt with thunderbird taillights? They were one piece rectangles. I'll dig around and see if I can find a rear end picture of that car.

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