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Matte PPF refers to the PPF finish, not what its applied to.

Leno makes a point to drive all his cars. His moto is its not worth owning if you cant or won't drive it.

Dealers are like a box of chocolates here. You never know what you're gonna get. (Bonus points if you read that in a Forrest Gump voice) Most of them do wash the car when they are done. But usually its through some automated POS that does a shit job and scratches your paint. I always tell then...

Its really hard to speculate based on your description. Could be normal, could not be normal. Without a video or sound clip no one can say for sure. And I certainly wouldn't let the internet diagnose your car based on your OG post. The only noise mine makes is the famous whine while in reverse...

Its not a good idea. On the Mach 1s, most people cut around the stripe, or did the stripe ontop of the PPF. The problem is PPF doesn't adhere well to a matte surface. It can bubble or delaminate.

You summed it up perfectly. 👍🏻

Really? Thats the first time of heard of that.

I had no idea 4th gear was 1 to 1 in those. But that explains a few things. 🙁

Ahh. Sorry. Id be curious to see the spec difference.

The gear ratios in the GT PP and DH are the same. And both have Torsen differentials. The standard GT manuals do come with tall gears (3.15s I think) and do underwhelm off the line.

Oh man. All this pro DH talk in other threads and you haven't even driven one...🤣 You have yourself convinced the standard DH suspension is massively upgraded from a GT PP and it's not. Do yourself a favor and drive both. Please. Unless you get the DH Handling Package (which has stiffer...

Was the GT a PP, and have you driven a DH yet?

Guy I never mustangs hold their value. I know cars depreciate. Re-read my posts.

I would ask you this - if you are worried about justifying the cost, why buy a track car if you aren't going to track it? As for the Tremec, I owned one and its a great transmission. But having driven both the Tremec and the Getrag, I can't say it was THAT different, especially for street...

Apples to apples, a Dark Horse Premium is still 10-15k over a GTPP premium. I personally do not think the price is justified, and thats probably why they aren't holding value like the Mach 1s initially did.

Apples to apples a loaded DH is quite a bit more. But it's actually only a few grand more for a Base DH over a loaded GTPP premium. The problem is, once you are in 65k plus territory, a non super charged coyote is just too damn expensive. Im going Corvette or used Porsche at that point.

Investment was a poor choice of words. What I meant was they aren't holding their value as well as other new cars.

Trade in values started falling on Mach 1s early last year. Prior to that they were holding fairly decent compared to GTs. Now its seems neither S650 is holding value well. Obviously some depreciation is always expected, but the OP was right to be miffed by HOW MUCH depreciation in that short...

Great idea. This this is a shitshow. 👋🏻

You are reading what you want to fit your perception of us. Look in the mirror and stop with the "you people" stuff.