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  1. REVan Interviews Ed Krenz, Mustang lead engineer, about 2024 Dark Horse Mustang

    Aren’t you one of the guys who calls the Mustang a performance car first and foremost? If hp and numbers don’t matter to you then what does? Besides, among my people no one really cares about such ā€˜inconsequential trivialities’ as most of them don’t care in general. So don’t you worry no smugs...
  2. REVan Interviews Ed Krenz, Mustang lead engineer, about 2024 Dark Horse Mustang

    Interesting story but I don’t see any outcry these days even if your car is tested at a much lower power output. ā€œThat’s within the rangeā€ is the answer one always gets… I don’t owe a GT but a quick Google ā€˜research’ implies that the GT is vastly overrated. There might be some GTs out there...
  3. REVan Interviews Ed Krenz, Mustang lead engineer, about 2024 Dark Horse Mustang

    I keep hearing that here on the forum but I think it’s hardly ever the case. Just google some stock dyno tests. Yeah, I know, every dyno is different on any given day but the vast majority of videos paint a crystal clear picture: a 18 stock GT makes about 390-420 hp… So where is this coming from...
  4. 2024 Mustang EcoBoost Convertible Spied in Vapor Blue w/Blue Brembos

    That looks really really lame... Mustang Sedan vibes... Don't like the cheap plastic front of the Dark Horse either but at least it's exhaust looks massive... I still hope that it looks way better in person and that it doesn't get boring after a minute or two (looking at you oversimplified...
  5. Thoughts on the Dark Horse Name

    I agree. As a German one grows up with names like C63 AMG, M3, RS6 and such. Only company that did names was/is Volkswagen and Porsche nowadays. I don't see any necessity to give cars names not to mention calling them females...:crazy: But back to the topic: Everyone knows that a AMG C43 and a...
  6. Thoughts on the Dark Horse Name

    You're right. Ford will charge way too much for a slightly upgraded GT - but so does everyone else these days. 'Budget' refers here to the 500+ club. What does the next 500+ hp coupe cost? I don't know the exact answer but I do know that it's way more. Therefore, if you're on a budget of around...
  7. Thoughts on the Dark Horse Name

    Except that it's a budget car that offers performance way above its price tag – at least in theory. That’s why DH is almost perfect in any given way. It has a perfect connection to horses, it punches way above its way class and is the underdog compared to much more expensive performance cars. If...
  8. Thoughts on the Dark Horse Name

    I partly disagree. I do think that the Dark Horse is a great name for a Mustang. It fits right into the picture and should’ve been used much earlier. If DH had a heritage everyone would love the name but unfortunately it doesn’t… I think the naming competition was much harder back then (a fast...
  9. Looks like hydrogen is getting a push.

    Except the fact that it’s much less efficient to produce hydrogen over pure electricity… The amount of energy that is needed is somewhat 60% higher compared to an EV, if I remember correctly… It would only make sense if renewable energy would be available basically for free and could be spared...
  10. Can anybody translate this for me?

    They are already measuring all kinds of data and I'm pretty sure they could remote control cars if they were allowed to... But if you use a smartphone then you shouldn't worry about any of this as it should already be familiar to you :D it's the button next to the red car start button. In Audis...
  11. Can anybody translate this for me?

    boy that is an ugly car... absolutely unproportional... what a few parts here and there can do amazes me every day. It's a lot of marketing bla bla... The engines, at least the 5.0 is a carryover. There is no denying that they might have done minimal changes to the engine but it is more or...
  12. 2024 Mustang (S650) Specs Sheet / Technical Data

    According to Ford.com a base GT camoes in at 40K, whereas a fully loaded GT comes in at 60K and a Mach 1 at 68K. A 2018 GT350 could've been had for 59K in 2018... Considering the fact that that car offers far more value than any other regular Mustang, todays prices are outragious. The GT350 had...
  13. Ezra Dyer: Mustang Is a Vibe.... It's an Attitude, Not a Format.

    A few thoughts on that: Bucket seats in a Mustang? Maybe optional but certainly not an iconic characteristic... "They truly give us a glimpse into a world of possibilities for fun and excitement that we couldn’t enjoy in any other car. ... they represent truly world class performance while...
  14. Video: S650 race car at Mount Panorama for Bathurst 1000

    They really don't have to. According to this article the last year 'Gen 3' Racecars Mustang had 600hp and 5.4L and we all know this never happened... https://www.carscoops.com/2021/12/ford-reveals-mustang-gt-gen3-race-car-for-australias-supercars-series/ So the next Gen Racecar will most...
  15. Mustang Chief Engineer Confirms Locked ECU, making S650 tune more difficult

    Actually the BMW subscription is there to safe money... Just read what they said the system will be like: you can't option heated seats anymore as they are standard. However, you will have the option to activate them whenever you like. Don't need heated seats in summer? Fine, safe $18 per...
  16. Have we really seen everything of the S650 yet?

    2024 maybe on German roads but certainly not in the US. The car will be shipped closely after the first order was made. Besides, our European version is still somewhat in the shadows as we still don't know for sure how the EU homologation will turn out. We'll most likely get the big and ugly...
  17. Ezra Dyer: Mustang Is a Vibe.... It's an Attitude, Not a Format.

    Good luck waiting for that... You can have two of them, performance, cheap or EV. You can't have all three of them. A performance EV that outperforms a Kia Ev6 GT or a tesla performance car will cost at least that much or much more. A true muscle EV (yes, that can be a thing) will be a $100k+...
  18. No fog lights on the S650

    According to the Mustang Design manager Ford did not built in fog lights because modern headlights are so advanced that there is no need for additional fog lights. https://fordauthority.com/2022/10/heres-why-the-modern-ford-mustang-lineup-lacks-fog-lights/
  19. Chief Engineer of S650 Mustang talks Coyote, EcoBoost, Dark Horse Upgrades

    Or people are disappointed because most parts are carry overs from a cheaper S550 and are now marketed as a "new" feature, including a higher price... I didn't expect more HP or more GT500 parts but the car will literally arrive in 2024 in Europe and all you get for ~60K€ is a refreshed S550...
  20. Still without front parking sensors/camera and HUD?

    No one can be 100% sure but so far no S650 had these sensors... Besides, the DH even lacks the rear sensors so... Rumors had it that the S650 would use a heavily modified D2C platform but if they didn’t even fix the wiring I’m afraid this is everything BUT a new car… So far we have updated...





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