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  1. Ford has no clue who their customers our

    Wright, sells, our, I try not to nitpick, but damn.
  2. 2024 Mustang sales lowest in history of Mustang

    The c8 is a two seater and sold something like 35-40k units last year. It's not the number of seats, it's the execution. The c8 sells insanely well for a car at it's price point because again, it feels like a bargain for what you're spending. The supra and Z have the same exact issue the s650...
  3. 2024 Mustang sales lowest in history of Mustang

    My generation loves cars like these man, it's just a $800 plus car payment isn't a reality for a 22 yr old who's also trying to buy a house. I'm telling you guys, my generation still loves cool cars, and they are actually more receptive to EVs. An EV mustang coupe riding on this super affordable...
  4. 2024 Mustang sales lowest in history of Mustang

    Exactly, we're never gonna see a 30 grand V8 sports car again, it's never gonna happen. So the focus should shift to how do you make spending 50-70 grand feel like a bargain? The answer is making the mustang look more exotic.
  5. 2024 Mustang sales lowest in history of Mustang

    To be fair, that's all due to the fact that a lot of EVs at the moment are crossovers or sedans that are trying to maximize interior space. So they all go for that monopod super short hood, massive passenger compartment look. But those platforms are actually way less limiting when it comes to...
  6. 2024 Mustang sales lowest in history of Mustang

    The s650 just has more prominent hips, one of several design improvements over the s550, that's a call back to even the '65, but especially the '67-70 mustangs. Sexy rear hips aren't a mustang or Camaro thing, they're a sports car and muscle car thing, something designers do because it's the...
  7. 2024 Mustang sales lowest in history of Mustang

    Here me out, what if Ford developed a next gen mustang to ride on the same platform as a sedan, and maybe even found a way where that platform could accommodate a next gen mach-e with both gas and electric powertrain capabilities. Then you have a platform that's future proofed, but you're also...
  8. 2024 Mustang sales lowest in history of Mustang

    I think the biggest reason why mustang sales are struggling is the excitement factor relative to the price. The s650 isn't a bad car, it retains the powertrain and chassis everyone loved about the s550, it's a better looking s550. But it's also not a huge leap forward in design, platform, or...
  9. S650 Mustang EcoBoost Review

    I mean, love it or hate it, Ford has made it known the V8 mustang only exists because of things like the mach-e. EVs lower the average CO2 outputs of a brands lineup. That means brands like Ford can make v8s and still meet government regulations if they produce enough EVs and hybrids. Dodge...
  10. Intense Lime Yellow Metallic - anyone ordering it?

    They can't give us a nice real or purple, something that would actually appeal to a lot of people. Instead, they give us different kinds of yellows which has a much smaller audience.
  11. 2024 Mustang GT new purchase discount off MSRP

    New car depreciation is just a part of life. The only car my family has owned that hasn't depreciated really is a maverick hybrid, which even now, more than 2 years later, I can sell for what I paid new for it. But most cars aren't that way. Never go into a new car, especially a new performance...
  12. Classic Escort Continuation Model Revealed

    An escort with rally racing heritage, and with a very wide range of models. You could have the focus st equivalent, the RS, and then go all out with some sort of radical widebody making like 500-600 hp.
  13. Classic Escort Continuation Model Revealed

    As for the MR2, I have a wild theory that Ford and Toyota could be developing this mid-engine platform together. Ford and Toyota openly work with other brands, especially when it comes to sports cars in Toyota's case. Now both companies are showing small, mid-engine cars that even have the...
  14. Classic Escort Continuation Model Revealed

    We're totally on the same page as this. I was thinking the escort needed to return. The only question is how to do that without the escort and mustang cannibalizing sales off one enough, you don't want that as a brand. The best way to avoid that is to make each model drastically different so...
  15. Classic Escort Continuation Model Revealed

    The dream for Ford imo would be to not just tap into their classic models, but tap into the era when those models were are their peak. So for instance, instead of saying let's make everything 60s inspired, 80s inspired, 90s inspired, they say let's late inspiration from when each model was at...
  16. Classic Escort Continuation Model Revealed

    Agreed. Or at the very least, take the Audi R8 approach. By that, I mean when Audi first launched the r8, they came out with this awesome supercar you could buy. But they also gave some of that cool factor and styling cues to other vehicles in their lineup. If making an RS escape means we get a...
  17. Classic Escort Continuation Model Revealed

    I think that's what their CEO is talking about. Going back to the days where their lineup was full of legendary cars, not just boring vehicles. This renault was revealed today, I believe this is the production design. When Ford talks about making these smaller EVs, and making them exciting...
  18. Classic Escort Continuation Model Revealed

    I need to stress this is just a theory of mine. But I'm just looking at all the pieces. Ford trademarking the RS 200 name, Ford designers creating that concept of a modern RS 200. Then you have to realize Ford has to see just like every other brand is, just how much of a runaway success the c8...
  19. Classic Escort Continuation Model Revealed

    Imagine a new RS 200. 2.3 Ecoboost hybrid with around 450 hp, mid-engine, comparable to the c8 in price.
  20. Official: Mustang GTD laps Nurburgring in 6:57.685

    I like a lot of what you're laying down. But 1.7 tons is a little over 3,700 lbs. I just don't see how Ford would be able to throw in a larger, heavier 6 or 7 liter engine while also losing a few hundred lbs over the current car. How much weight would they lose if they ditched the rear seat...





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