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no it’s not. The v8 itself is the perfect solution for large vehicles and performance vehicles. It’s the perfect solution. Anything else uses older tech combined with forced induction to match it. The problem is that the v8 far surpasses those when forced induction is added. Then there is the...

The mustang is not a legacy product. It’s in danger of becoming legacy if Ford doesn’t do something. there’s nothing legacy about the v8. It’s newer than the four cylinder. And the electric motor is even older than thst. So EV tech is actually more legacy. the v8 is the way of the future...

As do I. And it ain’t the Aston.

We are talking platforms. the adding you’ve mentioned are band-aids. it why the Camaro was such a problem. Because it had a platform thst maximized its potential, whereas the mustang has this fantastic engine tech but is saddled by its platform. It’s why we have to lay an arm and leg to get a...

And unfortunately still gets it’s butt kicked. if I were a collector I’d care more about resale. mid course the Gtd won’t be on lots. They are only msking a small amount. but when i buy a performance car, I want to get the most performance possible for the money. There is no better value...

thinking of it as legacy product is what’s killing it. It’s not 1960 anymore. And just duct taping iPads isn’t helping. The problem with catering ONLY to older buyers is that they’ve been there snd donr thst. The problem with catering ONLY to younger buyers is they have no money and tastes...

nope. That will likely be reached when the zr1 posts a ‘ring time.

man’s this happened prior to the bomb drop that was the zr1. There are enough people who’ve publicly cancelled their Gtd order to extrapolate the idea that Ford grossly miscalculated.

mite funny how some people try so hard to push how the old tech mustang HAS TO be so expensive. “It’s impossible for this car to be good and affordable simultaneously! The only way is to make it an ev grocery getter!” meanshile, Chevy was able to build a cheap Camaro on a new platform that was...

truth. you always have the big hype at first. Dealers love that opportunity to rip people off. But then the hype dissipates and rational thinking kick in. And the dealers realize the suckers either got ripped again or could never afford it. Then the lot gets full and the discounts pour in...

Sales are small BECAUSE they haven’t invested in the car. It’s like a Luddite product. No eants to spend new money day on old stuff. if ford can spend huge money sn an underselling suv (which may temporarily outsell a niche market car, but that’s not saying much since the suv category is a...

Idk. I think the zr1 will come in well under 7 minutes in the ring. Also I believe it will be better than 6:57. So here’s hoping ford clears that number by a good 10 seconds at least on the retry in better weather. The Gtd really only has the ‘ring time to hold up at this point. If that gets...

they are both pricey corvettes. it means that brand new zr1s will likely be found at mark or under at some point a Free launch.

By now I have to imagine b&o wishes they’d never partnered with ford.

I think there are multiple issues. Many of which have already been stated. But the biggest issue is that Ford did not learn from history. Remrmber the 2010-2015 Camaro? Thst thing sold incredibly well for a Camaro. Put the mustang behind it in sales too. Then 2016 came along and what did Chevy...

The vette has ridiculous power. OF COURSE traction is an issue at that level. It was on street tires. On a prepped track with proper tires, the thing will likely be in the 8s. the zr1 is hurting feelings already and it’s not even out. Never been a vette fan, but have to keep it real. GM knocked...

Want me to delete? No prob if so. I’ve put my share of stuff out there I wish no one quoted me on Lol

agreed on both points. I think the Gtd got roasted. Which sucks to be honest. But it’s what happened. Still, it will most likely only appreciate in value. The zr1 will most likely go the opposite way.

don’t mind the mental gymnasts. Hysteria does that to people. facts and logic are too much for the populace in this stage of grief.

And as predicted, we have folks living in an alternate reality where these two cars aren’t direct competitors. everyone compares them, from the rags to the blogs, to the YouTubers. They compete directly. They are both 2-door, 2-seat sports cars that cost ridiculous amounts of money. Heck, the...