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  1. Dark Horse vs Shelby

    Did MotorTrend not test a GT350? Because last fall, they said the DH out-braked EVERY production car they EVER tested. https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2024-ford-mustang-dark-horse-first-test-review/ FYI - They did test the GT350 ... several years. 2017 and 2020 for sure.
  2. Missing Underbody Strakes?

    Because the ONLY thing that affects order to delivery times is Ford's desire to make you wait? 😆
  3. Dealer Test drive refusal?!?!

    As many times as it takes to get simple facts through thick skulls, apparently. Trying to change what you said by using a five dollar word doesn't change the fact that you were CLEARLY stereotyping.
  4. Dealer Test drive refusal?!?!

    Yes, you missed my point. Twice now. A car salesman sells cars to earn a living and make money for the dealership owner. He gets paid to do this. He doesn't have the luxury to stereotype potential customers. Not only is he risking losing a sale, he's risking losing his job ... and even risking...
  5. GT vs Dark Horse

    Welcome back ... in more ways than one!
  6. Dealer Test drive refusal?!?!

    You, too, have completely missed my point. I'm not a car salesman whose job it is to sell cars. If I don't give the kid my DH keys, I'm still going to eat and I won't get fired.
  7. GT vs Dark Horse

    Standard seats are the same whether DH base or DH Premium. The only difference is if you get the optional RECAROs. The standard seats are very nice and do provide great support, especially if you're going to be doing mostly/all daily driving, are older, or if your body doesn't "fit" well in...
  8. Dealer Test drive refusal?!?!

    Unless you're ordering a unicorn (e.g., you want an orange car with pink polka dots and blue interior) that would be difficult for a dealer to sell if you back out, there really is no reason they need your $500 (or whatever). They have to order vehicles for dealer stock - you're just helping...
  9. New Mod for the 2024 Mustang GT

    I don't have to know you personally in order to arrive at an opinion on what you've publicly posted. We're not talking long division here.
  10. Pedders extreme coilovers and front, rear sway bars installed

    That's what so great about these -- you can mod them to suit what you want or need without paying for (too much) that you won't need. Glad you are happy with your changes!
  11. GT vs Dark Horse

    Sounds like might be better suited for a Prius. Seriously, if you're just looking for a daily driver to get you from point A to BE with no plans to modify, perhaps neither a GT nor a DH are well suited for you.
  12. Dealer Test drive refusal?!?!

    Some people think that, if you have a car ordered by a dealership, you HAVE to buy it and/or they HAVE to sell it to you. Neither are true statements, unless there is a signed contract between the buyer and the seller containing that language. Standard purchase agreements do NOT typically have...
  13. Crazy Pricing in Massachusetts

    Most Ford dealerships are independently owned and operated, either as single dealerships or the same group owning multiple Ford dealerships. Some are owned by "dealership consolidators", which are privately owned groups that own/operate multiple dealerships of different brands. Ford got out of...
  14. Dealer Test drive refusal?!?!

    At which point I would have given them the finger and walked. My 2016 C7 Z06 was a more expensive and higher performance vehicle than the GT500, and they wheeled that b*tch out of the center of the showroom so I could test drive it. FWIW, I had never stepped foot in that dealership before, so...
  15. Dealer Test drive refusal?!?!

    Outstanding decision.
  16. Dealer Test drive refusal?!?!

    You, too, would not be employed very long as a car salesperson if you refused to allow "certain" potential customers test drive vehicles based on a stereotype. Oh, and it's not "my" car those "idiots" would be rowing gears in -- it belongs to the dealership.
  17. New Mod for the 2024 Mustang GT

    I don't believe he's assuming anything. I believe he's made an informed decision based on the evidence posted in public view. Just a hunch ...
  18. Crazy Pricing in Massachusetts

    Nope. Ain't no 5.8 coming.
  19. Dealer Test drive refusal?!?!

    Your opinion is duly noted. But it's irrelevant. I'm not a car salesman trying to sell cars. Try again?
  20. Dealer Test drive refusal?!?!

    To be exact? One week ago yesterday, to my 21 YO daughter. And if she went to a dealership to shop for a car and was denied a test drive because some old curmudgeon didn't trust "kids" test driving cars before spending $40K or more on it, I would tell her to tell the old curmudgeon that he can...





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