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I think everyone’s had enough of Norway and this thread. Maybe it’s time to move on?

Ice cream, Greg, ice cream. Get with the program. :giggle: :like: :clap:

We want to know your favorite ice cream!

I know you don’t have Publix up there but if you did............

OK, that‘s it. TIME OUT for both of you. 30 minutes.

Move on Zack, move on. Ice cream, pick you flavor.

I don’t know about you guys but this conversation has been exhausting. I say we move on. So Chocolate, Vanilla, or Strawberry? Discuss.

Spoken like a true American! :clap: :crackup::cwl:

I said it was revolutionary for Ford, not the industry. And what does a government have to do with engineers, scientists, etc. developing anything that's revolutionary? Except for possibly funding.

Sorry for hurting your feeling but the truth is the truth. This is from 8 years ago but just as true today. We are not who we think we are. A little humility would be a good thing.

See that's the arrogance I'm talking about right there. It may not be overt but it's there. There are billions of people worldwide that have little or no tolerance to being told what they have to do. Unfortunately there are many that do not have a choice. And your history is just that...

Norm, please take off your binders. This isn't about the world versus performance cars. As you say, performance cars sales are a drop in the bucket overall. No manufacturer is going to drop their bread and butter ICE cars and just leave the performance cars for you and me. When they go, they...

Greg, chalk it up to American arrogance. If we do not do it first and/or best it doesn't count. And recently there is little we are doing either of. Instead of minimizing what Norway, England, and others are doing, we should try and learn everything we can. Like him or not that's what Elon...

I'm not forgetting Norm, but really the 260 CID was nothing to brag about either. And as far as the competition what about the Corvette, the Corvair, and , of course, Ford's own Thunderbird. And let's not forget the actual first Pony car, the Barracuda. Of course everything changed pretty...

That's a good point Mike. But honestly the Mustang we got in 1964 was a merchandising, and not an engineering marvel. If we had gotten the car that was originally thought of, 2 seater, mid engine, that would have been truly defiant.

Norm, you’re rewriting history. The Mustang that arrived in 1964 was designed and sold as a car for secretaries. It was a cute little 2 door coupe with a so so 6 cylinder engine. I know, my wife had one. Things, of course, changed when CS became involved, but at the beginning the car was...

Time out......Hold the presses........ I thought you wanted A DCT. Make up you mind. :cwl: :crackup:

Fixed. :facepalm: :like::giggle:

But it will make Mik, Norm, & Richard happy. :giggle: