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  1. Thoughts on the Dark Horse Name

    You're right. Ford will charge way too much for a slightly upgraded GT - but so does everyone else these days. 'Budget' refers here to the 500+ club. What does the next 500+ hp coupe cost? I don't know the exact answer but I do know that it's way more. Therefore, if you're on a budget of around...
  2. Thoughts on the Dark Horse Name

    Except that it's a budget car that offers performance way above its price tag – at least in theory. That’s why DH is almost perfect in any given way. It has a perfect connection to horses, it punches way above its way class and is the underdog compared to much more expensive performance cars. If...
  3. Thoughts on the Dark Horse Name

    I partly disagree. I do think that the Dark Horse is a great name for a Mustang. It fits right into the picture and should’ve been used much earlier. If DH had a heritage everyone would love the name but unfortunately it doesn’t… I think the naming competition was much harder back then (a fast...
  4. Looks like hydrogen is getting a push.

    Except the fact that it’s much less efficient to produce hydrogen over pure electricity… The amount of energy that is needed is somewhat 60% higher compared to an EV, if I remember correctly… It would only make sense if renewable energy would be available basically for free and could be spared...
  5. Can anybody translate this for me?

    They are already measuring all kinds of data and I'm pretty sure they could remote control cars if they were allowed to... But if you use a smartphone then you shouldn't worry about any of this as it should already be familiar to you :D it's the button next to the red car start button. In Audis...
  6. Can anybody translate this for me?

    boy that is an ugly car... absolutely unproportional... what a few parts here and there can do amazes me every day. It's a lot of marketing bla bla... The engines, at least the 5.0 is a carryover. There is no denying that they might have done minimal changes to the engine but it is more or...
  7. 2024 Mustang (S650) Specs Sheet / Technical Data

    According to Ford.com a base GT camoes in at 40K, whereas a fully loaded GT comes in at 60K and a Mach 1 at 68K. A 2018 GT350 could've been had for 59K in 2018... Considering the fact that that car offers far more value than any other regular Mustang, todays prices are outragious. The GT350 had...
  8. Ezra Dyer: Mustang Is a Vibe.... It's an Attitude, Not a Format.

    A few thoughts on that: Bucket seats in a Mustang? Maybe optional but certainly not an iconic characteristic... "They truly give us a glimpse into a world of possibilities for fun and excitement that we couldn’t enjoy in any other car. ... they represent truly world class performance while...
  9. Video: S650 race car at Mount Panorama for Bathurst 1000

    They really don't have to. According to this article the last year 'Gen 3' Racecars Mustang had 600hp and 5.4L and we all know this never happened... https://www.carscoops.com/2021/12/ford-reveals-mustang-gt-gen3-race-car-for-australias-supercars-series/ So the next Gen Racecar will most...
  10. Mustang Chief Engineer Confirms Locked ECU, making S650 tune more difficult

    Actually the BMW subscription is there to safe money... Just read what they said the system will be like: you can't option heated seats anymore as they are standard. However, you will have the option to activate them whenever you like. Don't need heated seats in summer? Fine, safe $18 per...
  11. Have we really seen everything of the S650 yet?

    2024 maybe on German roads but certainly not in the US. The car will be shipped closely after the first order was made. Besides, our European version is still somewhat in the shadows as we still don't know for sure how the EU homologation will turn out. We'll most likely get the big and ugly...
  12. Ezra Dyer: Mustang Is a Vibe.... It's an Attitude, Not a Format.

    Good luck waiting for that... You can have two of them, performance, cheap or EV. You can't have all three of them. A performance EV that outperforms a Kia Ev6 GT or a tesla performance car will cost at least that much or much more. A true muscle EV (yes, that can be a thing) will be a $100k+...
  13. No fog lights on the S650

    According to the Mustang Design manager Ford did not built in fog lights because modern headlights are so advanced that there is no need for additional fog lights. https://fordauthority.com/2022/10/heres-why-the-modern-ford-mustang-lineup-lacks-fog-lights/
  14. Chief Engineer of S650 Mustang talks Coyote, EcoBoost, Dark Horse Upgrades

    Or people are disappointed because most parts are carry overs from a cheaper S550 and are now marketed as a "new" feature, including a higher price... I didn't expect more HP or more GT500 parts but the car will literally arrive in 2024 in Europe and all you get for ~60K€ is a refreshed S550...
  15. Still without front parking sensors/camera and HUD?

    No one can be 100% sure but so far no S650 had these sensors... Besides, the DH even lacks the rear sensors so... Rumors had it that the S650 would use a heavily modified D2C platform but if they didn’t even fix the wiring I’m afraid this is everything BUT a new car… So far we have updated...
  16. Twin Turbo S650???

    Or it's simply because we have hard facts regarding the dashboard but non regarding a potential GT500 successor, needless to say it's engine... ;) If we see a successor to the GT500 it'll either have 800+hp NA, if they keep the predator alive. If not we'll either see a turbo/TT V8 or a hybrid...
  17. The new dashboard is a big mistake IMO

    Yeah, the screen itself might change. The screen shown is preproduction but the design is not ;) The final screen might look slimmer, has less bezel or another finish but that's about it.
  18. Rendered Colors for 2024 Mustang (S650) !!!!

    Just wait for My25 or MY26. Cyber Orange has been a stable among the colors. It|s just Fords policy to offer new colors every year or so... Absolutely redundant but a relic from the past but that's how it is... At least you guys in the US don't have to pay extra for certain colors... ;) edit...
  19. For those upset with the new design… at least it doesn't look like new BMW M2

    Have you ever seen the 3series or 5series or 8series coupe? They are true BMWs and are absolutely gorgeous looking cars. Don't know why they went overboard with 4series or M3|M4... The next 5series will keep its classy and sporty sedan look. However, this 2series/M2 looks like a spare parts GT86...
  20. For those upset with the new design… at least it doesn't look like new BMW M2

    I would like to have the best out of both cars: the updated BMW platform with HUD, potential AWD (M2 won't get it but it could have) and other options like 360 camera. And then I would like to put that in the S650. Keep the engine, keep the styling and the S650 turns into a car that's worth...





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