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  1. Dark Horse poorly received??

    If car guys want to get pissed it shouldn't be at ford. They are not the company that built the next gen car only to option a DCT. I had the same issue as you and just went the other way. I'm not ready to give up three pedals.
  2. 2024 mustang the problem with expectations

    Yikes, yeah, I know Chevy hit 670 N/A. I have no doubts that motor cost more than a Base GT. The biggest bitch about these cars isn't the motor....its the cost.
  3. 2024 mustang the problem with expectations

    I doubt highly that ford will create another V8 motor. You have your Coyote and your 7.3 for about 3-4 more years and then say goodby. I'm have doubts that they will ever be able to make the 7.3 work in a mustang just from an emissions perspective. They had to choke down the previous...
  4. Dark Horse poorly received??

    Any DH buyer can stretch it to a C8. I considered a C8 for a while. Honestly the DH is better looking (In my opinion), has a manual (which I refuse to give up), and has an option to Whipple if I get bored. If a C8 had a manual I that's where my $$ would have gone.
  5. Dark Horse poorly received??

    Sure. Comparatively to the 24GT, 23Charger, and 23Camero a DH is geared shorter. Its geared higher than my 17 GT which was just stupid. They were trying really hard to get respectable 0-60 times on 435 HP back then.
  6. Dark Horse poorly received??

    I've never driven or ridden in a 1LE or a G6 Camero, but it's well documented that it was just an overall better chassis for track/spirited driving. Chevy did everything BUT make it irresistible.... I never at any time looked at one of those cars and said, "damn thats a sweet car". And for...
  7. Dark Horse poorly received??

    I don't think the gears are too tall at all with the 3:73 rear. Hell, I had to tune my 2017 PP car to hit 60 in 2nd. Thats a pain in the ass. In the DH you are shifting into third at around 68mph. Its honestly where it should be, and stock for stock the acceleration of the two isn't close...
  8. Dark Horse poorly received??

    A base GT in 1993 isn't even comparable to the car you are getting today. I don't think anyone disagrees a GT is more costly today than before.... but the EcoBoost would be in the same ballpark (inflation corrected) as a 93 GT, and its a better car in every way. Safety, suspension...





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