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  1. Dark Horse vs Shelby

    That's a tire adhesion test. Not sure if you're really serious, but I'll explain as if you don't understand. One stop, the brakes can always lock up the tires. So the time/distance to stop weak link is tire grip, not brakes. No one is questioning that the DH has super sticky and soft tires...
  2. Dark Horse vs Shelby

    Here's a Cobra. It's made by Shelby, not Ford. And it is legendary. Hopefully Ford paid Shelby when they used the Cobra name. Hopefully they paid for the name Terminator as well - to the extent that name was used in their literature. Some of us remember that name came from a series of movies.
  3. Dark Horse vs Shelby

    I don't think I'm stuck in the past. I don't have any allusions that a 1965 GT350 is a better street driving machine than the recent GT350. Ford definitely did a better job making the GT350 a special car than Shelby did back in the day. I think of the Voodoo as being essentially a Coyote -...
  4. Ford Teases "New Addition to the Mustang Stable" Coming in 2025

    For some reason I had the impression that the latest NSX was a sales failure. Not sure why. Remember that adding more stuff to a car is absolutely going to make it more expensive and heavy. There's a DH for sale locally for $80+ thousand. Are you ready for a $100,000 and 4,500 lb Mustang?
  5. Ford Teases "New Addition to the Mustang Stable" Coming in 2025

    Superchargers are better than turbos generally in that there is typically less lag and the power curve can be more linear (in addition to functioning better from a performance standpoint). But they add a lot of weight and complexity to a vehicle and there can be some disadvantages with regards...
  6. Ford Teases "New Addition to the Mustang Stable" Coming in 2025

    YES! I was thinking about that car as well. High HP or torque is never a problem as long as the engine is naturally aspirated and the power curve is fairly linear. The throttle has an infinite number of positions between all the way up and all the way down. However, with a turbo you can get...
  7. Ford Teases "New Addition to the Mustang Stable" Coming in 2025

    I'm really hoping for a Mustang GT based on the GTD, but all steel/aluminum body for lower cost and with a manual transaxle. Most of the part designs are available and just need to be set up for higher volume production at a lower cost. Yes, Ford could take the Dark Horse, add a supercharger...
  8. Car and Driver Lightning Lap 2024 - Dark Horse Mustang Results

    Yes, probably the Mach 1 tires are better, I guess. Or they are roughly equivalent and since the DH is heavier, it doesn't corner as well. As to the DH gaining weight, I don't think Ford has ever made light weight much of a priority. With the GT350, they did get it down to 3,760 even with...
  9. Price Increase

    If I were you I would compare the DH to a used Mach or a GT350 and decide which you prefer. I think that will help clarify in your mind what your priorities are and whether a couple hundred dollars matter a lot. No, I would not kill a deal over a couple hundred, even if I knew that the dealer...
  10. Car and Driver Lightning Lap 2024 - Dark Horse Mustang Results

    Good point there. Although I remember a Randy Pobst 911 manual vs. auto test where they were very similar at Big Willow.
  11. Car and Driver Lightning Lap 2024 - Dark Horse Mustang Results

    I played the video while I was doing other things, so I was a little distracted, but what I remember is the cornering Gs were lower than the Mach 1 (and they said it was probably due to the weight of the Dark Horse), but the Dark Horse was still quicker around the track than the Mach 1. So my...
  12. Am I being unreasonable with my dealership over a cover issue?

    No you are not being unreasonable. I think you should stop using the dealership and also take the time to post some online reviews. There's no excuse at all for their terrible performance in this matter.
  13. Am I too picky? ….so many flaws on new $70k cars!

    I like to drive my cars too, but there's definitely nothing wrong with those that want to preserve them more. I do agree no new cars are show car quality, but the dealer should encourage the buyer to try to find flaws and volunteer to fix them without being asked during a new car purchase...
  14. Am I too picky? ….so many flaws on new $70k cars!

    Every BMW I've ever looked at had really bad orange peel. But the worst flaws are in the engine compartment. I think if you keep after it you will find a car in good condition. I have the impression that it's really costly for Ford to make a V8 car, even though it has the tiny 5.0 liter...
  15. Stiff shifting with Tremec trans

    If you are used to the MT82, the Tremec is a little stiffer and functions better with a somewhat more deliberate shifting style (ie shifts are a little slower in order to be smooth). The Tremec is also somewhat more cold blooded. It will get better over time. At least it did in my GT350. But...
  16. DARK HORSE ORDER | FAIL NEWS LETTER FROM FORD

    It does suck, but in Michigan where they make the cars it will be too cold and most summer tires would end up being damaged. They will produce your car as soon as possible I'm sure. Ford wants to sell cars. :) I agree it would be nice to have an independent tire option (separate from the...
  17. Car & Driver - 2024 Ford Mustang Ecoboost

    Corvettes had fuel injection in the 60s, but that was port injection - not direct injection. Why would I want a carb? They are overly complicated and a PITA to constantly adjust and clean. Port fuel injection is the sweet spot for engine technology that is perfectly functional without any...
  18. Car & Driver - 2024 Ford Mustang Ecoboost

    You make a lot of good points. To be clear about my position, I don't want double the injectors in my engine. I think it's a waste of money. It makes the engine more difficult to work on and there are more parts to break. I also hate the PWTA cylinder liners in the newer Ford V8s. Throw...
  19. Car & Driver - 2024 Ford Mustang Ecoboost

    I would prefer to see the engine run a little richer to control knock instead of using DI, which produces particulates. Or just "right size" the engine instead of over boosting it. That's why I own a 2017 Mustang rather than something newer. No DI in that engine. Easier and cheaper to fix...
  20. Car & Driver - 2024 Ford Mustang Ecoboost

    My biggest issue with them is the direct injection systems, overall complexity and the cost to manufacture. Yes, they save a small amount of gasoline energy, but manufacturing and then replacing engines in a short amount of time takes waaaay more energy than just using a simpler V8 engine that...





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