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[Wiley Marmot]

Only they ain't so friendly when they land on top of your ***!

OK.......................they didn't really land on the guy, the air liner just hit him as they came in short for a landing at Newark. Amazingly (thank God!) the truck driver only sustained a few cuts from flying glass shards...............................AND the plane, crew, and passengers made it OK too!

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[Neggytive]

The picture you don't see, and if there is demand I will find it and post it here, is before the cab of the truck gets wrecked from the light falling on it, if you freeze frame and look out the drivers side window of the truck you can get a very quick glance of the right side landing gear

As a pilot myself, albeit not an ATP or anything large, there is so much wrong here I don't know where to begin

I don't know what side was flying and what side ( left or right seat) was monitoring, but if you assume they were hand flying, or even if they were doing ILS and I don't think that runway is ILS equipped, someone had the wrong sight picture and were not focused on the touchdown zone, they ignored the altimeter, they ignored the PAPI lighting system ( red over red you are dead!) and not only did the Pilot flying make a huge mistake the Pilot monitoring did not catch the mistake and call it out so they could add power or do a go around.

The FAA just issued an order to preserve the aircraft and the CVR and FDR's, the CVR transcript is going to be epic if they knew they made contact with a light.


Actually I'll just post the picture. The truck's trailer is a max possible height of 13' 6", the wheel appears to be below the top of the trailer, the plane has a nose up configuration while landing, they are damn effn lucky the gear didn't get ripped off or have a tail strike. This is San Fran Asiana type stuff. Was the Captain Wee Too Lo?

 

[Neggytive]

 

[Junkyard Dog]

Another video, different angle

https://abcnews.com/video/132627866/


According to this article, the plane hit the light pole, and the light pole hit the truck. The plane's landing gear did not hit the truck.

 

[Neggytive]

The plane reported "something" over the threshold ( no shit Sherlock) and there was a hole in the fuselage when they inspected the plane at the gate.


The FAA is going to have a field day with this

As I said above this was inches (IMHO less than 99 of them ) from being an accident of Asiana 214 at SFO in 2013 proportions where they came in low and hit the lights and seawall at the edge of the airport.

Short of a tail wind disrupting their lift and causing a sudden fall there is no excuse for this and even then they were at the wrong altitude

Most aviation landings, be it an A380 or a Cessna 140 are done at a 3 degree down angle

The plane may be nose up to some extent but the plane is dropping on a 3 percent slope on your typical visual flight ruled (VFR) landing

There is a display on the dashboard that shows it

There are a series of red and white lights to the left of the runway that the cockpit crew sees in different ways if they are above or below that 3 degree angle.

all White you'll fly all night (too high) all red you are dead (to steep) 3 red one White, still too low of an angle, 2 white 2 red is 3 degrees you are fine , 3 white one red, still too high take some power out and let the plane sink

As you are approaching a runway you are looking for a few things, planes still on the runway ahead of you, planes ignoring ground controllers and blowing thru HOLD SHORT OF instructions, Ground vehicles ( as we saw in the recent Air Canada/Fire Truck crash at LGA), birds, animals, occasionally people, and the point on the runway you want to land at.

Usually that is a distance from the physical end of the runway, past the white striped area that signifies no landing on this section, and always past the numbers that mark the runway heading.

I normally don't comment on stuff like this, and that goes double if there was a loss of life which thankfully in this case there was not, because until the flight data recorders and cockpit voice recorders are removed, inspected and the contents transcribed it is all speculation.

But trust me this is going to be in some training materials real soon.

And I am ruling out technology errors as it was a very limited number of Boeing aircraft and none that are the model involved in this incident that had issues with the radio altimeters and C band 5G phone interference

This is IMHO squarley on the Pilot Flying ( could have been Captain or FO ) and the Pilot monitoring (the person who was not handling the controls)

 

[Junkyard Dog]

Neggytive, thank you for all of that additional information about landing (I think I speak for all of us non-pilots).

 

[Gregs24]

The plane reported "something" over the threshold ( no shit Sherlock) and there was a hole in the fuselage when they inspected the plane at the gate.


The FAA is going to have a field day with this

As I said above this was inches (IMHO less than 99 of them ) from being an accident of Asiana 214 at SFO in 2013 proportions where they came in low and hit the lights and seawall at the edge of the airport.

Short of a tail wind disrupting their lift and causing a sudden fall there is no excuse for this and even then they were at the wrong altitude

Most aviation landings, be it an A380 or a Cessna 140 are done at a 3 degree down angle

The plane may be nose up to some extent but the plane is dropping on a 3 percent slope on your typical visual flight ruled (VFR) landing

There is a display on the dashboard that shows it

There are a series of red and white lights to the left of the runway that the cockpit crew sees in different ways if they are above or below that 3 degree angle.

all White you'll fly all night (too high) all red you are dead (to steep) 3 red one White, still too low of an angle, 2 white 2 red is 3 degrees you are fine , 3 white one red, still too high take some power out and let the plane sink

As you are approaching a runway you are looking for a few things, planes still on the runway ahead of you, planes ignoring ground controllers and blowing thru HOLD SHORT OF instructions, Ground vehicles ( as we saw in the recent Air Canada/Fire Truck crash at LGA), birds, animals, occasionally people, and the point on the runway you want to land at.

Usually that is a distance from the physical end of the runway, past the white striped area that signifies no landing on this section, and always past the numbers that mark the runway heading.

I normally don't comment on stuff like this, and that goes double if there was a loss of life which thankfully in this case there was not, because until the flight data recorders and cockpit voice recorders are removed, inspected and the contents transcribed it is all speculation.

But trust me this is going to be in some training materials real soon.

And I am ruling out technology errors as it was a very limited number of Boeing aircraft and none that are the model involved in this incident that had issues with the radio altimeters and C band 5G phone interference

This is IMHO squarley on the Pilot Flying ( could have been Captain or FO ) and the Pilot monitoring (the person who was not handling the controls)

100%

Poor CRM

Should have gone around at decision height

PAPI would have clearly shown too low for some time.

Windshear warning would have gone off if there was going to be a sudden change of wind direction.

I expect all flight crew will be suspended.

 

[Paul's stable]

Well from this picture it's clear who's at fault. The truck is obviously to tall. If the truck was shorter this never would of happened. Also the truck driver never checks his mirrors at anytime looking for any planes.

 

[Junkyard Dog]

I was waiting for somebody to find the real culprit.

 

[LouG]

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