Tuning v tuner

[Zig]

With the anticipation of availability are we preferring the ability to use a ‘can’ or to actually tune? Plug and pray vs technician evaluation with revisions based upon results? Are we simply doing a checklist with recommended settings or are we actually logging and adjusting, since each and every is unique.

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[ZXMustang]

Being a tuner, here is my take. No matter who or what you use, you will need to have more than one revision before a car can be called - done.

No two cars, drivers, fuels, environments, you name it are the same. I've seen identical stock cars with the exact same revision tunes, do two totally separate and different things. One runs correctly and the other needing a few revisions to get right. And by right, I mean Maf fueling +or- 0, no knock at wide open throttle and LOTS of trans refinement among other things.

These cars are built to a very wide standard, and once you put them in the hands of folks of different driving styles, altitudes/environments and fuel quality, you end up with a large spectrum of results if the tunes are equal.

So my advice is if you want a tune and are willing to put in just a small amount of work like running a datalog using your phone or a handheld device and sending those logs in, then you would be best served with a real custom tune. I will have tuning support via HP Tuners day one if you are interested.

Many other well known tuners will as well. You will also get the full spectrum of support and tuning cost from them as well. So do your research, ask questions and more importantly - see who answers you back...

I already have NA tunes for 91/93/e85 with and without ghost cam/pop-flame features ready to run. I would figure all in costs around $1k for a tune package, RTD4 flasher and 4 HPT credits. That would be for me/p1 tuners. Might be a bit more or less depending on how many credits the new cars will need.

Im going all in on the s650 and going to focus on these cars. I also own a 2025 GT 10R80 car sitting in my garage and you'd better believe day one, minute one it will be tuned and tested on and refined to get the most out of this platform. My Drag radials are mounted already so I can head straight to the track for some real-world 1/4 mile times.

No matter who you pick or how you go about getting a tune, these cars have a TON left on the table. I've been datalogging my car for a few weeks now, and its not pretty how much Ford takes out of them at wide open throttle. Good luck.

You can email me if you want at the email in my signature if you have any questions.

 

[Abilor]

Being a tuner, here is my take. No matter who or what you use, you will need to have more than one revision before a car can be called - done.

No two cars, drivers, fuels, environments, you name it are the same. I've seen identical stock cars with the exact same revision tunes, do two totally separate and different things. One runs correctly and the other needing a few revisions to get right. And by right, I mean Maf fueling +or- 0, no knock at wide open throttle and LOTS of trans refinement among other things.

These cars are built to a very wide standard, and once you put them in the hands of folks of different driving styles, altitudes/environments and fuel quality, you end up with a large spectrum of results if the tunes are equal.

So my advice is if you want a tune and are willing to put in just a small amount of work like running a datalog using your phone or a handheld device and sending those logs in, then you would be best served with a real custom tune. I will have tuning support via HP Tuners day one if you are interested.

Many other well known tuners will as well. You will also get the full spectrum of support and tuning cost from them as well. So do your research, ask questions and more importantly - see who answers you back...

I already have NA tunes for 91/93/e85 with and without ghost cam/pop-flame features ready to run. I would figure all in costs around $1k for a tune package, RTD4 flasher and 4 HPT credits. That would be for me/p1 tuners. Might be a bit more or less depending on how many credits the new cars will need.

Im going all in on the s650 and going to focus on these cars. I also own a 2025 GT 10R80 car sitting in my garage and you'd better believe day one, minute one it will be tuned and tested on and refined to get the most out of this platform. My Drag radials are mounted already so I can head straight to the track for some real-world 1/4 mile times.

No matter who you pick or how you go about getting a tune, these cars have a TON left on the table. I've been datalogging my car for a few weeks now, and its not pretty how much Ford takes out of them at wide open throttle. Good luck.

You can email me if you want at the email in my signature if you have any questions.

Amateur tuner, but can agree with everything this gentleman said, and the iterative tuning process with steady hand making adustments based on logs will beat a canned tune anyday. As soon as I can plug in my MPVI3 and start calibrating, I'm getting some Kooks LTH and saving up for my Whipple.

@ZXMustang lol get ready for me to hit you with some questions!

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