keithwalton
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A few points / comments from the OP.
This thread is posted in the UK section, whilst everyone is of course welcome the primary audience for the information is UK owners as it's most relevant to them.
- The observation started with an automatic focus (so it has lane centring assist, which my manual does not have) i was unfamiliar not fussed with its driver assist features as i was driving it a few miles down the road only.
- The focus is a European orientated car and has relatively light steering so the amount of assist felt much stronger (your brain rapidly adapts to different weight steering)
- The situation was replicated on my own car the next day on the same road at the same time of day etc.
- My car had just been in for the recall & service, a number of non-ota (we don't get them all in europe) software updates had been applied. (defaults have been reset on a lot of things)
- I have not experienced this in my own can in the 12 months that i'd owned it prior to the service, however i haven't driven it at those exact conditions (the road was resurfaced a few months back and new lines painted, this was the first time the mustang had been on it in the dark)
- I haven't used the car much in the last 2 months whilst it was awaiting the recall
- Since this happened on the Focus AND the Mustang, it's a 'Ford' thing rather than a LKA thing, as my Mercedes has been up and down that road daily for years and it has never done it and it has all of the same assist tech.
- The issue appears to be the car confused a narrow bi-directional road for a wide single carriageway road, due to the edge markings only and being at night it may have limited perspective on the camera.
- 99% of the time i drive with LKA off
- Looking at the settings for LKA, i have the option of aid, or alert + aid. I could be wrong but i thought it was set at just alert in the past.
- A number of safety / assist features are mandatory on UK / EU vehicles and must default ON and thus have to be turned off every key cycle. But that's really a non-issue.
- Most cars for sale in europe go through a 'New Car Assessment Program' or NCAP (NHTSA does something similar), a manufacturer would like a top rating as anything but 5* can hurt sales.
-Due to low volumes Ford rarely submit the mustang for testing (there are videos of the Mk7 being tested)
-Assist features are part of the score if you don't have them you get marked down badly which is why the Mk6 only scored 3/5 (it's initial test was 2/5, ford made changes based on the result and re-submitted)
The score is a bit of a farce as you have to consider what year it was tested as to what the criteria was at the time.
Quite farcebly one of the first 5* vehicles stayed in production so long it was retested 10 years later and scored a 1*
https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/ford/mustang/27540
- Final thought, indicating to overtake a cyclist and cross the markings is entirely normal here and expected courtesy to other users.
- Changing lane to avoid a pot hole however only for it to try and steer you back into it is an oopsy.
This thread is posted in the UK section, whilst everyone is of course welcome the primary audience for the information is UK owners as it's most relevant to them.
- The observation started with an automatic focus (so it has lane centring assist, which my manual does not have) i was unfamiliar not fussed with its driver assist features as i was driving it a few miles down the road only.
- The focus is a European orientated car and has relatively light steering so the amount of assist felt much stronger (your brain rapidly adapts to different weight steering)
- The situation was replicated on my own car the next day on the same road at the same time of day etc.
- My car had just been in for the recall & service, a number of non-ota (we don't get them all in europe) software updates had been applied. (defaults have been reset on a lot of things)
- I have not experienced this in my own can in the 12 months that i'd owned it prior to the service, however i haven't driven it at those exact conditions (the road was resurfaced a few months back and new lines painted, this was the first time the mustang had been on it in the dark)
- I haven't used the car much in the last 2 months whilst it was awaiting the recall
- Since this happened on the Focus AND the Mustang, it's a 'Ford' thing rather than a LKA thing, as my Mercedes has been up and down that road daily for years and it has never done it and it has all of the same assist tech.
- The issue appears to be the car confused a narrow bi-directional road for a wide single carriageway road, due to the edge markings only and being at night it may have limited perspective on the camera.
- 99% of the time i drive with LKA off
- Looking at the settings for LKA, i have the option of aid, or alert + aid. I could be wrong but i thought it was set at just alert in the past.
- A number of safety / assist features are mandatory on UK / EU vehicles and must default ON and thus have to be turned off every key cycle. But that's really a non-issue.
- Most cars for sale in europe go through a 'New Car Assessment Program' or NCAP (NHTSA does something similar), a manufacturer would like a top rating as anything but 5* can hurt sales.
-Due to low volumes Ford rarely submit the mustang for testing (there are videos of the Mk7 being tested)
-Assist features are part of the score if you don't have them you get marked down badly which is why the Mk6 only scored 3/5 (it's initial test was 2/5, ford made changes based on the result and re-submitted)
The score is a bit of a farce as you have to consider what year it was tested as to what the criteria was at the time.
Quite farcebly one of the first 5* vehicles stayed in production so long it was retested 10 years later and scored a 1*
https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/ford/mustang/27540
- Final thought, indicating to overtake a cyclist and cross the markings is entirely normal here and expected courtesy to other users.
- Changing lane to avoid a pot hole however only for it to try and steer you back into it is an oopsy.
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