Is Your S650 Spying on You?

[Zig]

Anonymized data applied to individual

I heard the same thing on the news.
The insurance companies want to know how aggressive you drive.

Anonymized data individualized for participation. Curious if it can be shown to have lower a rate for the unaware participant.

I’ll take my portion of the settlement in the form of forever coverage, let’s see half from one company and half from the other, thanks. No more of this one time $20 garbage, I mean if we’re gonna have a settlement I want a seat at the table, point blank. Your assumption on your part grants rights on my part.

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[horned-toad]

Everything else I disabled.

and you honestly think the on-screen labels are accurate? And immutable? And cover what you interpret them to mean? Come on now! Pull the fuse. Like nuking from orbit, it's the only way to be (reasonably) sure.

 

[Dxm]

and you honestly think the on-screen labels are accurate? And immutable? And cover what you interpret them to mean? Come on now! Pull the fuse. Like nuking from orbit, it's the only way to be (reasonably) sure.

Well I don’t want to lose the app functionality either. I think it’s a decent compromise.
I park my car on the street, so I want to be alerted if someone is breaking in, etc.

 

[cazzytog]

Does pulling the fuse disable GPS and map?

 

[horned-toad]

Does pulling the fuse disable GPS and map?

not if you don't pull the wrong one. The telemetry is it's own circuit.

 

[Quint_758]

If you go to Page 292 in the 2024 Owners Manual, you'll be given a map of the Body Control Module (BCM)-A unit fuse panel. Fuse #8 is in-line with powering the car's Telematics Control Unit. Removing that fuse will disable the systems and software of concern, without affecting the drivability of the car.

If you use the Ford Pass App, you will lose functionality with that app. Ford Pass uses Telematics to talk to the car and retrieve information.

https://www.fordpro.com/en-us/telematics/

The system, software and feature has been part of Ford and other manufacturers for years.

Edit: anyone "racing" doing autocross or anything like that, pull the fuse before going out.

Only issue is that it is a MICRO3 shared fuse with #9 which seems to be the parking brake switch and a couple of sensors. However I think you can use a MICRO2 fuse to disable the fuse 8 connection.

Someone would need to test to make sure MICRO2 fits.

 

[Skye]

Only issue is that it is a MICRO3 shared fuse

Touch'e.

Attached is a picture of what you're referring to.

On the 550, #9 position is not used, even though it is shared with #8.

So, ya. My bad. A dedicated position #9 fuse would need to be tested.

 

[ListedGuru]

This is what I left turned on: "Share Vehicle Data" and "Share Vehicle Location". Otherwise the Ford app on the phone doesn't recognize the car anymore. Everything else I disabled.

So the only thing we can turn off is the Share Driving Data function? I guess that's better than nothing unless not using the Ford App is a big deal. Anyone else have any new input on this?

 

[ListedGuru]

Makes sense - my phone is listening to me all the time and pops up ads on things I've talked about but never searched for. I turned off all my data sharing settings on the Mustang. From the manual:

You can adjust several settings on the touchscreen under the connected vehicle features menu, such as:

• Vehicle connectivity.
• Share vehicle data.
• Share vehicle location.
• Share driving data.

https://www.fordservicecontent.com/...ingEnabled=False&userMarket=USA&buildtype=web

So you turned off share vehicle data, share vehicle location and share driving data? It was mentioned in the thread that turning off everything means the Ford App won't recognize your vehicle.

 

[ListedGuru]

Thanks for the link. When I get my car, that will be the first place I check out.

Did you turn off anything? Are you still able to use the Ford App?

 

[Decio]

So you turned off share vehicle data, share vehicle location and share driving data? It was mentioned in the thread that turning off everything means the Ford App won't recognize your vehicle.

Yes I turned everything off and I'm OK without the Ford App. I can confirm the app will not function properly as a result. Personally, as long as I have a key fob, gas, and good weather that's all I really need.

 

[DCS]

Did you turn off anything? Are you still able to use the Ford App?

I'm still learning the basics. Right now I've got everything I'm not sure about, turned on. I'll come back and start turning them off one-by-one to see the effect - if any on the Ford App.

 

[ListedGuru]

I'm still learning the basics. Right now I've got everything I'm not sure about, turned on. I'll come back and start turning them off one-by-one to see the effect - if any on the Ford App.

Ok sounds like a plan. Let me know what you figure out and I'll do the same. It sounds like we can turn off the share driving data option without it screwing up the Ford App so I'm going to start there for sure.

 

[Zig]

I'm still learning the basics. Right now I've got everything I'm not sure about, turned on. I'll come back and start turning them off one-by-one to see the effect - if any on the Ford App.

why not start with all off?

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