I get it now - traction in cold weather

[glenng6]

I don't live in PA. However, my answer from personal experience, which I have posted here with anecdotes, is, yes, you can. Easily.

Others have posted about tracking PS4S tires in 19 degree ambient, and they did just fine after a warm up.

If you want to have a little scary fun, though, head out cold onto the pavement and stab the gas while turning on ice cold summer tires when it is 30 degrees outside! LOL

After less than 10 minutes you can stab the gas while turning just like you would in the summer.

But, no, if I lived in PA I would not be driving on summer tires in the winter. Temperature is temperature, but you have a whole different set of conditions there, including snow. It can be in the 70s here in November or even December, or in the 20s or even teens, but usually it is toward the warmer end, and we almost never get snow, and, when we do, it is never on the ground for more than a day, or, once every ten years, two days.

I should have been more clear. It's not impossible, but you would have to be certifiable to do it in the northern states. That being said...I am sure there are many pushing the envelope. Glenn

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[Junkyard Dog]

Im not whining about anything. Im saying that just because YOU did, doesnt mean anyone else should.

I have not suggested that "anyone else should." In fact, in this thread, to which you responded, I specifically said that in glenng6's case, there is no way I would. I have no idea how you got anything else out of it, other than you want to be right on the internet, so you are going to keep claiming the opposite of what I wrote.

Your personal experience doesnt change physics and known data.

We have seen the testing previously posted here where the summer tires had the shortest stopping distance on frozen asphalt.

You can pretend all you want that your position is some sort of unquestionable objective reality, but it isn't. The facts do not really support what you are saying at all.

Not to mention that your one day of track experience does not make you an expert on tires.

Nice ad hominem. I have never tracked in the winter or on PS4S tires, but somebody else has one both at the same time, and guess what? He posted here that after a warm up the tires performed well on track. This was similar to my experience on public roads all of last winter. I won't refuse to post my own and others' experiences just because you do not like the results of actual use cases.

Go track on all seasons in the winter if you want to. I won't criticize you for it.

You can chose to ignore facts and data all you want, just dont tell other people to do the same.

(A) You don't have "facts and data" other than things you have read on your computer screen, and (B) I have never told other people to do anything, much less what you are accusing me of. Stop with the false accusations. Anybody can see my post up above where I said the opposite of what you are claiming.